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Old 10-13-2015, 12:08 AM
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In this link to Begg's book there is something I'd never seen mentioned before. Inspector Reid claims at the inquest that a door of the loft was found locked from the inside, and when it was forced no one was found inside. This is very strange. Could the killer have hid in the loft and had some escape route? Was there some sort of way out the police didn't recognize?
Across the rooftops?

A witness walking home at the time purportedly saw a man scurrying across the roof tops (Jack the Ripper The Secret Police Files) amzn.to/1tGNEb0

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Old 10-13-2015, 12:37 AM
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Across the rooftops?

A witness walking home at the time purportedly saw a man scurrying across the roof tops (Jack the Ripper The Secret Police Files) amzn.to/1tGNEb0

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Thats interesting. How would someone get to the roof from inside the loft?
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:39 AM
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Thats interesting. How would someone get to the roof from inside the loft?
I have no idea, but I dont know whether they had skylights in those days or not. I am just making people aware of what I was told by a relative of someone who was alive and in Whitechapel at the time of the Stride murder, and what they saw whilst walking home the night of the Stride murder.

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I have no idea, but I dont know whether they had skylights in those days or not. I am just making people aware of what I was told by a relative of someone who was alive and in Whitechapel at the time of the Stride murder, and what they saw whilst walking home the night of the Stride murder.

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Interesting. Are there any mentions in the police files of a roof sighting or roof theory
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:33 PM
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Trevor, personally I don't care for you...but your post kinda makes me want to read your book...as much as I think the stolen organs theory is crackpot. how come it's only on kindle?
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Are there any books that go into depth on the Pipeman and BSman aspect of the stride murder?
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In this link to Begg's book there is something I'd never seen mentioned before. Inspector Reid claims at the inquest that a door of the loft was found locked from the inside, and when it was forced no one was found inside. This is very strange. Could the killer have hid in the loft and had some escape route? Was there some sort of way out the police didn't recognize?
If the loft was indeed locked from the inside there would have to be another way out. If Trevor's hand-me-down witness sighting of a man on the roof was true (and I'm both intrigued and sceptical in equal measure on that one) you'd be looking at some kind of 19th century free runner with knowledge of (and access to) the buildings around Dutfields Yard.
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If the loft was indeed locked from the inside there would have to be another way out. If Trevor's hand-me-down witness sighting of a man on the roof was true (and I'm both intrigued and sceptical in equal measure on that one) you'd be looking at some kind of 19th century free runner with knowledge of (and access to) the buildings around Dutfields Yard.
What we don't know is the layout at the bottom of Dutfields Yard. I don't know if this account is true or not, but if the killer was disturbed by LD then he could not go out via the front gates so where else could he go, back into the club if that is where he originally came from, or down to the bottom of the yard and up onto the roofs.He wouldn't necessarily need knowledge of Dutfields Yard he would be looking for a quick escape in some way.

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If the loft was indeed locked from the inside there would have to be another way out. If Trevor's hand-me-down witness sighting of a man on the roof was true (and I'm both intrigued and sceptical in equal measure on that one) you'd be looking at some kind of 19th century free runner with knowledge of (and access to) the buildings around Dutfields Yard.
Inspector Reid claims it was locked from the inside. Unless he's mistaken, wouldn't the police have investigated how one would have escaped from inside a locked loft? I wonder who was in charge in the loft?
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TREVOR. Rooftops escape? I read on voicesofbro dmo r com of an 1888 escape by an "F.M.", a 24 year old man wh was able to escape by vaulting the wall... like the opening scene of CASINO ROYALE. Said he had the strength in his legs to jump six feet off a scaffold and catch onto a partitioned wall with his knees. I was trying to find out if James Kelly buddy ever eacaped.

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