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Old 11-13-2017, 11:15 AM
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That´s because just the one man DID both series, Michael.
So much for objectivity!

It's highly questionable whether one man was responsible for either series, let alone both.
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When I read this I was asking myself "Has Steve ever posted the words ´that would strengthen the Lechmere case somewhat?´, or are these poests of his always aiming at things that potentially can damage the Lechmere theory?"

I arrived at the conclusion that I don´t think he has ever posted anything at all about things that would strengthen the Lechmere theory.

Well I have yet to see anything which strengthens the case, it's that simple.
I was initially hopeful with the "blood evidence " it seemed to be based in science; unfortunately that was only an initial view.


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Well I have yet to see anything which strengthens the case, it's that simple.
I was initially hopeful with the "blood evidence " it seemed to be based in science; unfortunately that was only an initial view.


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The fact that a torso was found on Pinchin Street strengthens the case.

The fact that his mother lived in Mary Ann Street strengthtens he case.

The fact that Lechmere has logical ties to all the murder sites in the Ripper series strengthens the case.

For example.
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So much for objectivity!

It's highly questionable whether one man was responsible for either series, let alone both.
If I call a red car red, it is perfectly objective. But not to you. You call red cars blue.

That´s where we differ.
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What if the double event didn't include Stride at all?
Hi Jer
I have always had stride as a ripper victim-peaked cap man and all that.

I guess what I'm tryng to say is if it was the torsoripper, than that's an aweful lot of activity! double event sat/sun and then dumping torso in WH on Monday?
or Tuesday?

how long was the victim dead before she was placed in the vault again?
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I am always amazed how you are willing to set aside a more obvious choice, that Wildbore does present an interesting suspect for just the Torso murders and really has no connective thread to any of the "Ripper" murders, for a position insists that one man did both series.
Wildbore is an extremely suspicious chap for the torso murders IMHO and if the torsoripper is one man, why couldn't he have traveled into WC to do the ripper deeds?

the similar sig and MO(partial) is what ties the two together and if wildbore is responsible for the torsos, what rules him out for the ripper murders?

and don't forget the pinchin torso is right in the ripper territory. If it was wildbore than I'm suspecting he had a mode of transportation. nothing too incredible about that.
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The fact that Lechmere has logical ties to all the murder sites in the Ripper series strengthens the case.
when a serious ripper researcher (not my words) decides that a certain suspect took a certain route to go somewhere isn't it just complete conjecture and actually they have no idea which streets the guy took?

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if the torsoripper is one man,
even if the torso ripper is one man, his name should still be two words shouldn't it?
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how long was the victim dead before she was placed in the vault again?
That point is arguable, I guess Abby. Dr. Bond said late August, early September. That was after seeing the condition of the leg and torso. Dr. Neville, who examined the arm immediately after it was discovered and was the first of the parts discovered, had death around the 8th or 9th of September. Dr. Neville did not attend the inquest instead saying he would trust Dr. Bond would come to the same conclusion as he did for the TOD or something to that effect.
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even if the torso ripper is one man, his name should still be two words shouldn't it?
LOL. Not if its Torsoripper.
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