Coincidence? If not, why would Her Majesty's Government take the advice of a Divisional Surgeon on the matter of pardons to accomplices.
Hello, Simon, All.
Great thread! I have learned a lot. Simon, the above quote has to be correct. Phillips knows something. What do you think? Also interesting that last week you brought up the conversation between Phillips and Stuart-Wortley, on the "Last Witness" thread, but then I just missed it. Sorry, as I said, I'm learning.
Tom, do we know anything more about what the Doc took home?
Well Paul,I dont to be honest!But thinking about it,Mary was seen with old carotty moustache at about 11.30 -I seem to remember, and nobody saw him leave -he was listening to Mary"s rendition of "violets" well into the night.Mary went out at 2 am---and according to Hutchinson she then greeted Mr Astrakhan with the [code?] words,"I have lost my handkerchief" and on cue he produced a red handkerchief and they both walked off, arm in arm,laughing .
Now Dr Phillips clearly suspects only one of them of being the murderer,the other he thinks was an accomplice. As for what he found that gave rise to his suspicions that there was the murderer and another person, who may have assisted the murderer, could it have been a red handkerchief and an empty quart can ?
Don't let's put the cart before the horse. So far all this is speculation, and it must remain so until we have more to work with. Putting Mr Astrakhan and/or Mr Blotchy in Room 13 with our unknown victim is a real stretch.
If two plus two does equal four all we can deduce thus far is the followingó
Doctor Phillips suspected that more than one person was involved in the Millers Court murder and informed HMG as such on the evening of November 9th.
Based on Phillips' suspicions HMG issued a pardon to an accomplice on November 10th.
But at the same time, and for reasons unknown, the police gave nobody cause to believe the "MJK" murder was anything other than the work of a lone "Ripper".
I wonder too Simon,if our friend Hutch read of the "pardon" to be given to the Ripper"s "accomplice" in The Times of 12th November 1888 ,which caused him to pop into Commercial Street Police Station and ask for that interview with Abberline?
I wonder did he say those things to Abberline or did he say different things to Abberline,which were given the subterfuge of a "walkabout "in Petticoat Lane , the pretext of a "signed statement" and the promise of a safe house?Abberline did something similar regarding the Cleveland St Scandal.Neither the Cleveland Street"s disgraced owners nor Hutchinson were ever seen or heard of again remember.
A Hutchinson "look out" might even begin to make some sort of sense!
Norma-------blown away by all this new stuff!
Thats the way it seems to be shaping Simon.But I must get some sleep now as its nearly midnight here.I was wide awake at 5.30 am because of the Ripper meeting at docklands- a fascinating afternoon and evening it was too......Robin Odell,Stewart Evans and Paul Begg all gave great talks there and Rob House was there from America with lots of interesting things to tell us.