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Wolf Levisohn 1888/1889
Severin Klosowski 1888/1889
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Prince of Wales said to have had a flat near Fenchurch Street/Prince William Street?

Batty Street occupants re Tumblety

re Thomas Cutbush----any Tea Warehouse in the Minories?
Hello Nats, even my 1888 maps have no prince phillip street, do you have another cross street to get me in the nieghborhood? The proprieter of the Prince of Wales is listed as one George Scott. Unless of course it is the prince and princess of wales, in which case the proprieter is Walter John Crisp. Dave
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Here is the 1888 disclaimer, part of the data set limitations expressed by the generators of the set. Dave
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The directory is not simply alphabetical. It appears to be laid out chiefly by street and business. The names of businesses or the streets of people are now the preferred mode of giving pointed requests. I apologize for my error in understanding. Dave
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As you know I have pages of an 1888 atlas loaded into google earth. When I try to find some of these streets in the directory, they are not listed. Just a note for future researchers. So far,Artichoke hill, and George Yard both off the old ratcliff highway. Dave
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Many thanks for these,Dave ,particularly the Cranbrook Street entry.
However,in the 1929 book by HL Adams entitled ,"The Trial of George Chapman" a reference to the street is made in the context of a small book having been found on his arrest in 1902 by Inspector Godley,in Chapman/Klosowski"s bedroom.It was written in Polish and the title,translated for court was," Five Hundred Prescriptions for Diseases and Complaints".
On the first page of this book was found the following entry:

S.Klosowski, 54 Cranbrook Street,Green Street

As you can see Dave the house number was 54 not 35.

I believe this was the very first address Klosowski stayed at when he arrived in the UK from Poland some time after the end of February 1887 and before he stayed at Mrs Radin"s for five months in 1888.
At present there is no way to prove this,but because it is just over a mile from the Docks and because there is no previous English address written in this Polish book,such as for example Mrs Radin"s ,and he is likely to have brought this book with him from Poland,I believe the address is of crucial significance.
Thanks again for all your help-re the other matter----I will look up the street system near King William Street which crosses Fenchurch Street to see if I can be more precise.

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Hello Dave,

The Victoria Home perhaps?

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Yes, we have no bananas. Apparently the residence of 54 cranbrook was unwilling or unable to pay the 5 schillings for an entry. There is no entry in 1888. Dave
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Thats a pity Dave!But interesting by its omission perhaps.As you say it was probably because whoever lived there couldnt afford the entry.
Thanks for the info so far,
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Here is the entry for one of our favorite places. Dorset Street, population 2 in 1888. Dave
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Now you really are talking.......in riddles,Dave
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