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Old 04-18-2008, 12:37 AM
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Default Did Jack kill more than three?

Why do you think, he killed more than three women?

If you were investigating the case, what would you say would be the reason you would link more than three women to his kill record?

Other than going along with the crowd, what is your insight on the murders?
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:50 AM
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He killed only three women: Liz Stride, Mary Kelly, and Elizabeth Short. Anything more than this is unsupported speculation.

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Old 04-18-2008, 11:11 AM
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Why do you think, he killed more than three women?

If you were investigating the case, what would you say would be the reason you would link more than three women to his kill record?

Other than going along with the crowd, what is your insight on the murders?
I think he attacked seven women. Injured two and killed five. My five are:

Martha Tabram
Nicholls
Chapman
Eddowes
Kelly.

It would take an entire book ( in fact it did) to lay out all the reasons why I think this, so I think I will summerise by saying that these attacks had the most in common.
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Old 04-18-2008, 11:15 AM
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I stand by the opinion, that based on modus operandi, the deep throat cut and the fact that the womb appears to have been the target in at least two of the murders, we can only be quite sure of attributing three victims to the Ripper:
Nichols, Chapman and Eddowes.
The rest must remain open to debate, although it could very well turn out in the end that all five or more could be Ripper victims.

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Old 04-18-2008, 11:28 AM
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Bob Hinton writes:

"My five are:

Martha Tabram
Nicholls
Chapman
Eddowes
Kelly."

No, Bob, those are not your five. They are mine!

Tom of course offers an intriguing addition in Liz Short - talk about cutting deep!

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Old 04-18-2008, 12:02 PM
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My first intention was to add Marilyn Monroe and Annie Farner as well to the list, but pulled out in the last minute.

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Old 04-18-2008, 01:10 PM
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Hope you´re not drawing on any comparisons with Tabram here, Glenn...?

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Old 04-18-2008, 01:50 PM
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Hi,
My list is as followes.
Tabram,
Nichols,
Chapman,
Long Liz,
Eddowes,
Kelly.
It has to the above, otherwise my 39 theory is wrong, and that is impossible isnt it?.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:11 PM
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No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

Sorry about that, Richard. At least I brought the bad news 39 times...

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:43 PM
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Hi all,

Because of the nature of the attacks I think it is well above 50-50 for each of the C5. For Millwood, Smith, Tabram and McKenzie, it would be under 50-50 but, taken as "the field", I'd think it would be likely that he killed at least one of them. There's also a pretty good chance he may have killed at least one other that we have not even considered so his tally would likely be about 7 as I'd estimate it. Of course there's no way to prove anything but you'd be hard pressed to say that he didn't kill at least Chapman and Eddowes so 2-10.
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