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Hello all,
I have just gone through this thread until page 16... and I'm sorry if this has already been said... but its pretty obvious to me.... Sam, you could well be right, but I think Mike is too, because of some thing Jane mentioned...
Piece of info 1..... MJK1 is taken to accomodate the entire body length
Piece of info 2..... MJK3 is taken to show the immediate area of the groin.
Jane said, I believe...that somewhere in an old book it mentions about 10 photos were made.
Khanda said, I believe, that it didnt matter if the table etc was moved to gain angles. And given the bad light, no room bad conditions, the photographer would try to get as many photos as possible.
Abberline and Arnold, EVERYONE who saw that scene were totally shocked by the gruesomeness.
Lets put all that lot together shall we?
Imagine YOU are the Policeman in charge.
1) This disgusting attack has so many things that have been done to MJK, that you have to get all the details as possible. Therefore, you ask the photogrphaer to take as many photos as possible, from as many angles as possible, to show as detailed a scenario as possible, to get as much evidence as possible. Hence 10 photographs.
2) As MJK3 is a close up, why just the one? No, it makes more sense to have close ups from as many angles as possible, one of the face, one from the foot of the bed, one from behind the table, etc etc etc. It is obvious to me that MJK3 is one of a series, and that MJK1 is the first photo taken by the photographer.
3) In order to do the above, the police give the phographer permission to move the bed, table etc to get the angles and the close ups. Remember, there is about 2sq ft of blood on the floor... so working around that has to be taken into consideration.
4) It would NOT surprise me to know that the rest of the room, is photographed as well. Where, for example are the photographs of the fireplace that the POLICE took such an interest in? They made a great fuss of examining that. Likewise the coat left behind.
5) This was one of the few murders in this series that was in an enclosed space. They had TIME to do all this work before they remains (I use that would carefully and respectfully) were taken away to the Mortuary. In all other cases, the body lay outside, which caused problems in itself.
So Sam, I think that there were more photos (re SPE, Eric Barton) and that THOSE photos were all details from every possible angle. The arm may well have been moved during that time, especially IF the bed was lifted from the foot end in order for the photographer to get next to the wall. The left arm COULD have just dropped away from the body on moving the bed, and was replaced.
Mike, if there WERE a series of photos, then yes, your theory of the right hand could apply. But as yet, I see a left hand, albeit very strange to look at.
I may be wrong, but Eric Barton said there were more photo's. On THAT basis alone, we have no reason to doubt him, we must look to see why so many photos. Logoc says, details and angles. Simple.
If I were a policeman, that is EXACTLY what I'd want, because of the extent of the mutilations.
respectfully,
best wishes
Phil Carter
All of the above is logic, ladies and gentlemen.
I have just gone through this thread until page 16... and I'm sorry if this has already been said... but its pretty obvious to me.... Sam, you could well be right, but I think Mike is too, because of some thing Jane mentioned...
Piece of info 1..... MJK1 is taken to accomodate the entire body length
Piece of info 2..... MJK3 is taken to show the immediate area of the groin.
Jane said, I believe...that somewhere in an old book it mentions about 10 photos were made.
Khanda said, I believe, that it didnt matter if the table etc was moved to gain angles. And given the bad light, no room bad conditions, the photographer would try to get as many photos as possible.
Abberline and Arnold, EVERYONE who saw that scene were totally shocked by the gruesomeness.
Lets put all that lot together shall we?
Imagine YOU are the Policeman in charge.
1) This disgusting attack has so many things that have been done to MJK, that you have to get all the details as possible. Therefore, you ask the photogrphaer to take as many photos as possible, from as many angles as possible, to show as detailed a scenario as possible, to get as much evidence as possible. Hence 10 photographs.
2) As MJK3 is a close up, why just the one? No, it makes more sense to have close ups from as many angles as possible, one of the face, one from the foot of the bed, one from behind the table, etc etc etc. It is obvious to me that MJK3 is one of a series, and that MJK1 is the first photo taken by the photographer.
3) In order to do the above, the police give the phographer permission to move the bed, table etc to get the angles and the close ups. Remember, there is about 2sq ft of blood on the floor... so working around that has to be taken into consideration.
4) It would NOT surprise me to know that the rest of the room, is photographed as well. Where, for example are the photographs of the fireplace that the POLICE took such an interest in? They made a great fuss of examining that. Likewise the coat left behind.
5) This was one of the few murders in this series that was in an enclosed space. They had TIME to do all this work before they remains (I use that would carefully and respectfully) were taken away to the Mortuary. In all other cases, the body lay outside, which caused problems in itself.
So Sam, I think that there were more photos (re SPE, Eric Barton) and that THOSE photos were all details from every possible angle. The arm may well have been moved during that time, especially IF the bed was lifted from the foot end in order for the photographer to get next to the wall. The left arm COULD have just dropped away from the body on moving the bed, and was replaced.
Mike, if there WERE a series of photos, then yes, your theory of the right hand could apply. But as yet, I see a left hand, albeit very strange to look at.
I may be wrong, but Eric Barton said there were more photo's. On THAT basis alone, we have no reason to doubt him, we must look to see why so many photos. Logoc says, details and angles. Simple.
If I were a policeman, that is EXACTLY what I'd want, because of the extent of the mutilations.
respectfully,
best wishes
Phil Carter
All of the above is logic, ladies and gentlemen.
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