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Old 02-22-2017, 06:29 AM
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Plenty of bullies in Ripperology too.....I think we all need a safe space.....wait.. Pub Talk is the safe space.... OH NO!!!!!!!!!

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Steadman, you crack me up sometimes.

I read an article yesterday in the New Yorker that explains why Casebook forums will contain threads full of arguing. It seems that even when presented with facts that a person's viewpoint on any issue is wrong, people usually refuse to change their minds, and in fact will simply become more entrenched in their belief.

They say it's because human beings evolved to be social.
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This thread has taken a different direction from what I thought it would be when I posted the story. I simply can't see how this woman can be held responsible for the boy's death from a legal perspective. Even if they can prove she did in fact bully him how can they prove that it was her specific bullying that led him to do what he did in light of the fact that other people bullied him as well? And then of course you have the basic question of whether or not bullying constitutes a crime.

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This thread has taken a different direction from what I thought it would be when I posted the story. I simply can't see how this woman can be held responsible for the boy's death from a legal perspective. Even if they can prove she did in fact bully him how can they prove that it was her specific bullying that led him to do what he did in light of the fact that other people bullied him as well? And then of course you have the basic question of whether or not bullying constitutes a crime.

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This may help.

http://www.workplacebullying.org/cat...bullying-laws/

There are also several state laws against bullying directed at children in schools.

As for the case, I don't know the details of the law they are using or the witness reports, and it may well fail. But I think from the little the article states about the manager's behavior, she crossed the line with her employee. I don't think throwing food at people is approved leadership, and I blame her company for training her poorly.

As for what is bullying, most Human Services departments can provide you with a definition and a list of traits which constitute workplace bullying.
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This case happened in California in 2015. The young man belonged to two groups protected by most harassment policies, being African-American and an Asperger's patient.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...289662711.html

The disturbing thing is the company's "ritual" of publicly putting an employee in handcuffs in a mock arrest if they are suspected of theft. One wonders what sort of proof was required that the person was a thief, or if another worker's word is sufficient.
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