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Old 03-23-2010, 09:49 AM
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Default why wasn't Jack caught?

i wonder if anyone can help me.
I'm doing my dissertation on the above question, "why wasn't Jack caught?", but i am having trouble researching the police investigation.
Is there anyone who can shed some light on this?
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:40 PM
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Blondie:

There are numerous reasons for this, but your best bet would be to focus on the lack of technology available to the police of 1888. That they didn't have modern day forensic science available to them, DNA, profiling, etc. Fingerprinting DID exist, but it was in its infancy, there was no police database to work from as they have today, and it was not used in the JTR case.

The police were basically relying on catching the killer red handed (hence the extra patrols enforced, vigilance committee's such as Mile End Vigilance Committee under George Lusk, etc) or receiving information from witnesses which would lead them to the capture of the killer. Old methods were employed, such as house to house searches and rewards from several local companies and identities. A government reward was not offered until after the Mary Kelly murder.

You could also mention the killer himself, and the fact that it's likely that he worked alone, and was not known to any of his victims, which makes catching a killer very difficult indeed, even in modern day homicide investigations, as such a high percentage of murders are committed by lovers, friends or associates of the victim.

Anyway....hopefully that gives you something to build on....

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Old 03-23-2010, 01:58 PM
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Thank you Adam

I've started to look at the lack of forensics that the Police could investigate. I also looked at the lack of co-operation between both the Met and the City of London police.

But apart from finding out who were the police officials involved I was getting quite stuck!


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Old 03-24-2010, 02:01 AM
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Hey Laura,

No problem.
You could also perhaps mention Barnaby and Burgho, the two bloodhounds that Sir Charles Warren himself took for a trial run, and were considering using to help track the killer immediately after a murder. These dogs had gone back home before they could be put into use however. And it's unlikely they would have worked anyway just because of the sheer quantity of tracks and contamination that would be in the area.

Anyway....best of luck....

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Thank you Adam

I've started to look at the lack of forensics that the Police could investigate. I also looked at the lack of co-operation between both the Met and the City of London police
But apart from finding out who were the police officials involved I was getting quite stuck!


Thank you

Laura
Laura

Its a bit of a myth the two forces didnt co-operate. The did communicate with each other, the Sadler ID parade for example where a City witness was used by the Met. Though, admittedly, there were occaissions where there was miscommunication.

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Old 03-24-2010, 11:50 AM
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Thank you Monty
I never knew that!


Adam,

That's brilliant! I've also managed to get copies of letters from the National Archives that mention the use of dogs, so that's very helpful!

Thank you

Laura
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Hi Laura, and welcome to the forums.

Scotland Yard Investigates has alot of info on the police and how they proceeded during the murders.
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Hunter

Thank you!
I've just ordered it!!

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Old 03-25-2010, 11:46 AM
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I totally disagree with Adam Went. Even with all the advantages he mentions the overwhelming majority of serial killers today are caught by accident.

Fingerprints, DNA, forensic analysis etc is just about useless in catching a criminal. Once caught they can provide evidence, but first you have to catch him.

Blondie refers to a 'dissertation'. Does she mean this is for use in obtaining a degree? If so she is going to fail as it is obvious she hasn't done her basic research. Basic research in this case would be reading the major works on the case such as Sugden, Evans,Fido, Begg et al.

The short answer to her question 'Why wasn't Jack caught?' is very simple. Because he got away.
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i wonder if anyone can help me.
I'm doing my dissertation on the above question, "why wasn't Jack caught?", but i am having trouble researching the police investigation.
Is there anyone who can shed some light on this?
Thank you,
I think in fairness to the posters on here who are being asked to help it would be of great assistance if Blondie could tell us what books she has already read. This would prevent us from suggesting books she has consulted.
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