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Hi RJ,

More tosh has been written about Abberline than any other policeman in the investigation.

Nobody knows what he thought about the WM, so I would suggest that your problem has nothing to do with the Kilauea volcano and more to do with people blowing inventive BS up your backside.

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Explain why it had to be Badham that used the phrase,Can be identified?.Your claim seems to indicate that Hutchinson would have been,for some reason you do not state,unable to do so.Why wouldn't he have been?What was the gain in changing,"I would recognise the man if I saw him again",or words to that effect,to,"can be identified".Brevity? The need to save time and paper space? Can we now expect,if it is true that changing a phrase and a whole paragraph occured in that instance,that the hundreds of interviews that were conducted in the Whitechapel murders,suffered the same fate? You of the same mind as Jon,that such practises were common,had formats supplied by the police department,and were encouraged to use them?

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Sure I will explain the meanining of prepared statement.One hears of it all the time.So and so arrived at the police station with a prepared statement
is a pretty common description.It is when a person has knowledge of an incident,commits it to memory , in words on paper,or, (today)uses some other form of storage,and passes that information to another party.It can be given orally.
So Hutchinson arrived at the police station,and communicated orally to the police,a remembered prepared statement of an incident that was recorded on paper by a policeman.Satisfied? Hutchinson could of course have posted it,or given it to another person to deliver.Today one can phone a statement to police,email a statement,or use other means.All lawful,and that's all they need do.
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Having trained as a sailor,Hutchinson would have been comfortable informing an officer "can be identified".

A plumber ...... meh.
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and yet nary a peep from Abberline again about hutch. eventhough his favored suspect, chapman, resembled Hutchs suspect Aman, down to curly mustache and peaked cap. and this from when Abberline was going on extensively in the Pall mall interview about the ripper, his appearance, his ideas on it, and suspects/witnesses.
This is a good point, also - One discrepancy only have I noted, and this is that the people who alleged that they saw Jack the Ripper at one time or another, state that he was a man about thirty-five or forty years of age. They, however, state that they only saw his back, and it is easy to misjudge age from a back view.
So taken at face value Abberline must have believed Astkaran wasn't Mary's killer and that she was killed later in the morning or he came to disbelief Hutch.
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Gareth, I find it very noticeable that you did not refer to the subsequent dismissal of those "stories"
There was no deliberate omission on my part, Jon. Suffice to say that those "stories" were out there in the public domain and, even if there were press reports discounting some - or all - of them, the fact remains that the picture was not as clear-cut as you make out, and the inquest was a few days away. The time of death had by no means been established as definitely after 9AM, or any other time for that matter, and Hutchinson's alleged sighting of his pretty friend with a suspicious looking guy who accompanied her to her room in the early morning of her death was assuredly something that could have been of interest to the police - it's not as if the sightings of "Kennedy/Lewis" Prater or Cox were suppressed or dismissed simply because Morris Lewis and Caroline Maxwell allegedly saw her alive much later. Hutchinson could, and should have come forward regardless; indeed, he alleges that he'd already told a policeman his story on the Sunday before the inquest, so - if true - he clearly thought that his account was worth telling.
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