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Firstly, if itís not in any way Ďrelevantí why are you so vociferous in claiming that Mather was a man with some kind of grudge?

Secondly, what words into whoís mouth? Are you talking about Wallace and Mather?
Because, as you know, I'm a rather good judge of character!
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Nope. We shall see...
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Because, as you know, I'm a rather good judge of character!
(and RES IPSA LOQUITUR)

Nope. We shall see...
I see absolutely no evidence for you being a good judge of character. Simply disliking those that disagree with you doesn’t really count.

And as you appear unwilling to back up your rather threatening statement about ‘putting words into mouths’ it’s impossible to respond properly and fairly.

On re-Reading the thread, and as the only other person that I’ve mentioned who might ‘object’ to anything that I might say is, and I can only assume (due to your unwillingness to specify,) Antony? I therefore assume (due to your unwillingness to specify again,) that you are talking about my point about Antony accepting that the caller asking for Wallace’s address points more to Wallace than Parry?

If that’s indeed the case then I’d suggest you read Antony’s book.

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“Nevertheless, this detail points more towards Wallace.”

I can see no other occaision where I might be accused of putting words into someone’s mouth. Something that I’ve never knowingly done. Unlike when someone suggested that Parkes had said that he’d been threatened by Parry when this had never been said or even implied.
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There's no art to find the mind's construction in the face. He was a gentlemen on whom I built an absolute trust.

So says Duncan to Macbeth on the execution of the treacherous Thane of Cawdor, little realising that Macbeth himself will prove more lethal. Anyone who says they are good judge of character usually dies penniless. Or worse.
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I can see no other occaision where I might be accused of putting words into someone’s mouth. Something that I’ve never knowingly done.

You have just put in [and took out!] words from Wallace's mouth...!

You don't even know you're doing it, apparently...

But it's no problem. I enjoy your contributions.
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There's no art to find the mind's construction in the face. He was a gentlemen on whom I built an absolute trust.

So says Duncan to Macbeth on the execution of the treacherous Thane of Cawdor, little realising that Macbeth himself will prove more lethal. Anyone who says they are good judge of character usually dies penniless. Or worse.
I'm a good judge of character because cynicism is in my DNA.

Hell, our ancient family motto is CELERITER NIL CREDE...
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You have just put in [and took out!] words from Wallace's mouth...!

You don't even know you're doing it, apparently...

But it's no problem. I enjoy your contributions.
Itís very easy, and not to say more than a little infantile, to make an accusation without explaining the reason for it. And if I didnít know that I was doing it itís difficult to see where criticism is valid. All that would have been required would have been for you to have pointed it out. I admit my errors. I donít recall you ever admitting that Parkes never said that heíd been threatened by Parry for example?

How about ditching the insinuation and speaking openly?
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You have just put in [and took out!] words from Wallace's mouth...!

You don't even know you're doing it, apparently...

But it's no problem. I enjoy your contributions.
I think your tying yourself up in knots here Rod. You accuse me of putting words in and taking words out of Wallace’s mouth. Then please explain how this is connected to the quote, and threat, below?

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And I'd be cautious about putting words in someone's mouth, btw. I doubt he'll put up with it any more than I do...
So according to this you are suggesting that Wallace won’t put up with it?

It’s therefore fairly obvious that you were indeed talking about Antony as I originally suggested but were thrown by my quote from his book.

Goodnight all.
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Since we have attracted new posters, with a thirst for information, here's a little compendium of good resources:-

Brief
F. Tennyson Jesse, 1953
https://www.dropbox.com/s/og96f9012q...KMATE.pdf?dl=0

Daily Telegraph, 2001
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...on-Street.html

Yahoo!Groups, 2003
https://archive.is/20130105185113/ht...ers/message/27
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Dorothy L, Sayers (1936)
https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet..../n165/mode/2up

Edgar Lustgarten (1950)
https://archive.org/stream/verdictin...e/162/mode/2up

The unmissable spine-tingling Radio City drama-documentary from 1981, with people who were actually there in 1931
https://forum.casebook.org/showpost....8&postcount=79
https://forum.casebook.org/showpost....0&postcount=82
https://forum.casebook.org/showpost....7&postcount=85
https://forum.casebook.org/showpost....1&postcount=94

In A City Living, 2011 blogspot [illustrated with photos]
https://outline.com/RzNcc7
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(to follow soon)
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And our new posters can spot the very obvious dodge.
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In 1901, Julia (aged given 30) is back in London, living alone as head of her household in Stroud Green Road, Hornsey, Middlesex.
Occupation: Living on own means

[The transcription of age 30 may be an error for 39 (I have not seen the original) or this could be around the time that Julia started to shave a considerable amount off her age]
Here it is; it is definitely 30:
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