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Old 06-22-2018, 09:51 PM
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Default Mystery of WW2 vet who stole child's identity

Read of the case of Joe Chandler, a deceased World War II veteran who was found after his death to have stolen the name and birthdate of an eight-year-old who died in a car crash in 1945. Strange story, as no one knows why Robert Nichols felt it necessary to change his identity.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/...rnd/index.html
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Read of the case of Joe Chandler, a deceased World War II veteran who was found after his death to have stolen the name and birthdate of an eight-year-old who died in a car crash in 1945. Strange story, as no one knows why Robert Nichols felt it necessary to change his identity.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/...rnd/index.html
Did he need o change his age to join up for the war?
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Read of the case of Joe Chandler, a deceased World War II veteran who was found after his death to have stolen the name and birthdate of an eight-year-old who died in a car crash in 1945. Strange story, as no one knows why Robert Nichols felt it necessary to change his identity.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/...rnd/index.html
That’s intriguing Pat. You can’t help thinking “what had he done that he needed to change identities and stay on the run?”

Thanks for posting it and let us know if you hear of any developments
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Did he need o change his age to join up for the war?
He would have, I suspect, chosen someone more than eight years old in that case.
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He would have, I suspect, chosen someone more than eight years old in that case.
But both were born the same year +/-1, which rules out my first thoughts.

So just hiding from something someone.
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I think he was in the military under his own name. After he died, they couldn't find any military record in the name of Chandler (which was the identity he borrowed in 1978, I think), and later discovered he must have borrowed the dead boy's name and birthday.

But until they did some forensic DNA testing twenty years later, they didn't know he was really Robert Nichols.

He had abandoned his family, so I guess he didn't want to be tracked down, but some of his comments about people "getting close" are strange. Paranoid? Witness protection? Secret enemy spy?

We are unlikely to ever know.
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I have no reason to suppose that the reason Nichols / Chandler did so is the same but the way in which a professional assassin operating in the early 1960s obtains and then uses the identity of a dead child is fascinatingly covered in Frederick Forsyth's novel 'The Day of the Jackal', later made into a film of the same title directed by Fred Zinnemann and starring Edward Fox.

Both novel and film are highly recommended.

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....and if The Jackal wasn't Charles Calthrop, then who the hell was he?

I thought the movie was much better than the book, but that's just my opinion.

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The Day of the Jackal was my first thought too, but it wasn't published until 1971, well after this chap pulled the same trick.
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The Day of the Jackal was my first thought too, but it wasn't published until 1971, well after this chap pulled the same trick.
I don't know. He left his family in 1964, but acquired the death certificate in 1978, so he might very well have read the novel "The Day of the Jackal" in the early Seventies.
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