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  • #31
    Hi Lynn,

    Y Division was Highgate, main police station Kentish Town.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    • #32
      thanks

      Hello Simon. Thanks. Thought that Cracknell, Y division, was sent to watch Isenschmidt.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • #33
        Thank you so much for this Lynn. This is nothing less than awesome!

        Sincerely,

        Mike
        The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
        http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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        • #34
          more to follow

          Hello Mike. Entirely welcome!

          Later, I will get to the long dynamite story.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • #35
            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
            Cheers.
            LC
            Now, this article states (post # 22) that Abberline is an ex-inspector who assisted Inspector Froest in an arrest. Abberline was working for the Pinkertons at this time. Incidentally, Froest was one of the detectives named on Tumblety's Marlborough Court charge sheet.

            Mike
            Last edited by mklhawley; 03-23-2012, 07:50 PM.
            The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
            http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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            • #36
              mistake?

              Hello Mike. Well spotted.

              There is also a clipping from about 1873 in which he is an inspector, but another from 1878, in which he is a serjeant. Wonder if that's a mistake?

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • #37
                I believe he was promoted to inspector in 1873, so my bet is the 1878 article made the mistake.
                The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                • #38
                  Hi All,

                  When Abberline was assisting Froest in 1898 his employer was Littlechild, who ran the London branch of Pinkertons.

                  Another Littlechild employee was ex-Superintendent John Shore.

                  They were all chums together.

                  Regards,

                  Simon
                  Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                    Hi All,

                    When Abberline was assisting Froest in 1898 his employer was Littlechild, who ran the London branch of Pinkertons.

                    Another Littlechild employee was ex-Superintendent John Shore.

                    They were all chums together.

                    Regards,

                    Simon
                    I remember David Williams, who wrote a book on the Pinkertons, called William Pinkerton an Anglophile. A London branch would have been the perfect excuse to wear his cockney hat!
                    Mike
                    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                    http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                    • #40
                      Hi Mike,

                      The Pinkerton's origins were Scottish.

                      Surely Willie would have been wanting to wear a Tam O'Shanter?

                      Lynn Cates will set us straight about such arcane matters.

                      Regards,

                      Simon
                      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                      • #41
                        cosy

                        Hello Simon.

                        "When Abberline was assisting Froest in 1898 his employer was Littlechild, who ran the London branch of Pinkertons.

                        Another Littlechild employee was ex-Superintendent John Shore.

                        They were all chums together."

                        Sounds rather cosy.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • #42
                          Hi Lynn,

                          Cosy?

                          I'm amazed Pinkertons didn't have an office in New Scotland Yard.

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                            Hi Lynn,

                            Cosy?

                            I'm amazed Pinkertons didn't have an office in New Scotland Yard.

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            How would we know if they did have? How do we know that they didn't?!
                            I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                            • #44
                              heh-heh

                              Hello Simon.

                              "I'm amazed Pinkertons didn't have an office in New Scotland Yard."

                              Hmm, food for thought, heh-heh.

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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                              • #45
                                the old department

                                Hello Bridewell.

                                "How would we know if they did have? How do we know that they didn't?!"

                                'Ere now. And I thought you were an ex-copper? Heh-heh.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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