East End Photographs and Drawings

[The Grave Maurice]

Gee, Andrew, you're starting to annoy me. I could have been up there with my Nikon for a week and it never would have occurred to me to focus on the chain or the rail. Excellent shots. If I were wearing a hat at the moment, I'd tip it.

[Jake L]

John,

Thanks for taking the time to annotate the map as regards "relevant" locations!

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Yep, there certainly is quite a bit of foreshortening & whatnot. Still, I think it gives a nice overview & shows the great number of changes that took place between 1850s and the LVP.

Here's how the whole thing looks like - sorry about the near-useless size... Casebook's jpg size limit (800px) is a bit severe, methinks..



/jake

[m_w_r]

Hi -

Here's the same map as used in Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992).



A couple of other curiosities which have cropped up recently:

1) Spot some familiar locations in the background in these publicity shots for Tie Rack (a UK outlet for, um, neckties):

Click here

2) 16 Batty Street, the address (if not the actual building) at which Israel Lipski murdered Miriam Angel in 1887. Unfortunately I can't afford it...

Click here

Regards,

Mark

[Rob Clack]

Some photos I took today of Swallow Gardens:

This one is looking Northwards to Chamber Street


Southwards towards Royal Mint Street


Western side at the Southern end.


The Western side again. The dark damp patch is where the water spout was.


Another view looking North


Mitre Square


and Mitre Square again


Rob

[Stephen Thomas]

Some photos I took today of Swallow Gardens

Gor blimey Guv, what a turn up.

The full creepiness of Swallow Gardens revealed at last.

Thanks Rob

[Bulldog]

Rob,

What is on the other side of the western wall? Another archway?

Thanks,

Bulldog

[Rob Clack]

Gor blimey Guv, what a turn up.

The full creepiness of Swallow Gardens revealed at last.

Thanks Rob

Thanks Stephen. Philip told me a couple of weeks back that Swallow Gardens was accessible, and he posted a photo a few pages back.

Rob,

What is on the other side of the western wall? Another archway?

Thanks,

Bulldog

Yep, there's archway either side. The railway line above the tracks run on to Fenchurch Street Station.

Rob

[Andrew Firth]

Excellent photos there Rob!

Now that the archway is empty it really does convey a certain spooky ambience all of its own. Thinking back to Colin Roberts' photo with the fish van and it's amusing numberplate, it just looked like any other industrial storage unit!

Just one question, what's the circular recess in the ceiling of the arch for? I would expect to see that kind of thing in a railway tunnel, as a ventilation shaft, but Swallow Gardens is just an arch of a viaduct. Trains never passed through the arch itself. Any ideas?

All the best
Andrew

[Rob Clack]

Hi Andrew,

Not sure myself. It might have been used for some of the businesses that used the arch. It doesn't look that old from the photo I took, or at least it's been cleaned up.



Rob

[Archaic]

Terrific photos, Rob.

I think Swallow Gardens looks like a huge dank burial vault.


How's the new camera working out then, OK?

Cheers, Archaic

[Rob Clack]

Terrific photos, Rob.

I think Swallow Gardens looks like a huge dank burial vault.


How's the new camera working out then, OK?

Cheers, Archaic

Well it's already had one dead body in it

So far so good. Couldn't give it a proper work out as I had planned today. And as you can see there are a couple of mysterious orbs in a couple of photos....

[Bulldog]

I don't remember reading any 1891 accounts of the murder that mentioned that it was possible to go from one archway to another without going out onto the street. That seems to make it possible, though unlikely since a hoarding blocked off half the interior, that the murderer could have reached the street from one of the other archways.

Rob,
Great photos by the way. Thanks for sharing them.

Bulldog

[Rob Clack]

I don't remember reading any 1891 accounts of the murder that mentioned that it was possible to go from one archway to another without going out onto the street. That seems to make it possible, though unlikely since a hoarding blocked off half the interior, that the murderer could have reached the street from one of the other archways.

Rob,
Great photos by the way. Thanks for sharing them.

Bulldog

Thanks. The eastern side of the arch (the other side of the hoarding) was a business premises belonging to R Cull & Son Firebrick Merchants. The door on the western side was the entrance to Midland Railway Goods Station. The door was probably locked at that time of night and I don't think there was a way out to the street that way unless it was via the Goods Yard.

Rob

[Jake L]

The Spout....!

Nice one, Rob!

Thanks for these!

/jake

[Andrew Firth]

Hi Andrew,

Not sure myself. It might have been used for some of the businesses that used the arch. It doesn't look that old from the photo I took, or at least it's been cleaned up.

Rob

No, I agree, it looks like a much more recent alteration to the original arch. Still can't think what it's purpose might be though!

Andrew