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Old 11-25-2015, 04:28 AM
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Hi,

I found this. What do you think about it?

"ANOTHER LONDON MYSTERY

Last Sunday evening, at 9.30, the attention of Police-constable 457 D was called to a brown paper parcel lying behind some railings at the corner of Devonshire-street and Great Portland-street. On pulling open one corner, he noticed it contained some underclothing with appearantly blood-stains upon it. He therefore conveyed it to the Tottenham Court-road Police-station, where it was opened by the inspector on duty, who found the contents to consist of a drab flannel shirt, a pair of menīs drab pants, a pair of cuffs, and a collar. The two first-named articles wrer completely saturated with blood, but the collar and cuffs were only slightly splashed. The divisional surgeon was sent for, and gave it as his opinion that the blood was human. Information was at once forwarded to the chief office, Scotland-yard, and the discovery was circulated through all the divisions of police in the metoropolis for elucidation".

(The Huddersfield Daily Cronicle, Tuesday, September 25, 1888)

And can we put it in the context of this?:

"The second victim of the Thames series was discovered in September of 1888, in the middle of the hunt for the Whitechapel Murder. On September 11, an arm belonging to a female was discovered in the Thames off Pimlico. On September 28, another arm was found along the Lambeth-road and on October 2, the torso of a female, minus the head, was discovered. The torso was discovered on the grounds of the construction site for the New Scotland Yard building and was dubbed by the press the "Whitehall Mystery." Scotland Yard had a murder mystery to solve even before their new building was complete."

(http://www.casebook.org/dissertation...o-murders.html)

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Old 11-29-2015, 10:46 AM
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Hi,

I found this. What do you think about it?

"ANOTHER LONDON MYSTERY

Last Sunday evening, at 9.30, the attention of Police-constable 457 D was called to a brown paper parcel lying behind some railings at the corner of Devonshire-street and Great Portland-street. On pulling open one corner, he noticed it contained some underclothing with appearantly blood-stains upon it. He therefore conveyed it to the Tottenham Court-road Police-station, where it was opened by the inspector on duty, who found the contents to consist of a drab flannel shirt, a pair of menīs drab pants, a pair of cuffs, and a collar. The two first-named articles wrer completely saturated with blood, but the collar and cuffs were only slightly splashed. The divisional surgeon was sent for, and gave it as his opinion that the blood was human. Information was at once forwarded to the chief office, Scotland-yard, and the discovery was circulated through all the divisions of police in the metoropolis for elucidation".

(The Huddersfield Daily Cronicle, Tuesday, September 25, 1888)

And can we put it in the context of this?:

"The second victim of the Thames series was discovered in September of 1888, in the middle of the hunt for the Whitechapel Murder. On September 11, an arm belonging to a female was discovered in the Thames off Pimlico. On September 28, another arm was found along the Lambeth-road and on October 2, the torso of a female, minus the head, was discovered. The torso was discovered on the grounds of the construction site for the New Scotland Yard building and was dubbed by the press the "Whitehall Mystery." Scotland Yard had a murder mystery to solve even before their new building was complete."

(http://www.casebook.org/dissertation...o-murders.html)
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Hi,

I found this. What do you think about it?

"ANOTHER LONDON MYSTERY

Last Sunday evening, at 9.30, the attention of Police-constable 457 D was called to a brown paper parcel lying behind some railings at the corner of Devonshire-street and Great Portland-street. On pulling open one corner, he noticed it contained some underclothing with appearantly blood-stains upon it. He therefore conveyed it to the Tottenham Court-road Police-station, where it was opened by the inspector on duty, who found the contents to consist of a drab flannel shirt, a pair of menīs drab pants, a pair of cuffs, and a collar. The two first-named articles wrer completely saturated with blood, but the collar and cuffs were only slightly splashed. The divisional surgeon was sent for, and gave it as his opinion that the blood was human. Information was at once forwarded to the chief office, Scotland-yard, and the discovery was circulated through all the divisions of police in the metoropolis for elucidation".

(The Huddersfield Daily Cronicle, Tuesday, September 25, 1888)

And can we put it in the context of this?:

"The second victim of the Thames series was discovered in September of 1888, in the middle of the hunt for the Whitechapel Murder. On September 11, an arm belonging to a female was discovered in the Thames off Pimlico. On September 28, another arm was found along the Lambeth-road and on October 2, the torso of a female, minus the head, was discovered. The torso was discovered on the grounds of the construction site for the New Scotland Yard building and was dubbed by the press the "Whitehall Mystery." Scotland Yard had a murder mystery to solve even before their new building was complete."

(http://www.casebook.org/dissertation...o-murders.html)

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More info here:

The location is also very close to the body parts from the Tottenham Torso case of 1884.

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....legrand&page=3

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He answered "quoi",so I asked him to hop off and get me a steak.
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Old 12-05-2015, 12:24 PM
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More info here:

The location is also very close to the body parts from the Tottenham Torso case of 1884.

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....legrand&page=3
Thanks a lot!

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who found the contents to consist of a drab flannel shirt, a pair of menīs drab pants, a pair of cuffs, and a collar. The two first-named articles wrer completely saturated with blood, but the collar and cuffs were only slightly splashed.
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So what do these clothes say about the killer? Remember one of the victims parts was found in a costermonger's apron pocket. And the white bleach powder, a huge clue in my opinion. What do you make of the powder? I think the killer stopped using the bleach powder in the later murders...why?
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Changed his job/occupation (or was sacked) so that a regular supply wasn't available any more?
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