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Old 04-10-2018, 06:51 AM
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For those of you that don't frequent the JTR forums, I copied this over to illustrate the difficulty in getting the Whitehall torso into the particular vault it ended up in. The same vault the workers stored their tools in every night.

Here is the original thread. http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....hitehall+vault


Please note: In my first post on that thread my red arrow is in the wrong location for the body. I corrected with a more detailed map (the one I have a link to below) later on in the thread.


Here is the image of the actual basement of New Scotland Yard. The purple arrow is the approx. location of the torso. The other stuff I will have to post an explanation after I get home from work.

https://i.imgur.com/IuLYvWD.jpg?1
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:25 AM
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For those of you that don't frequent the JTR forums, I copied this over to illustrate the difficulty in getting the Whitehall torso into the particular vault it ended up in. The same vault the workers stored their tools in every night.

Here is the original thread. http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....hitehall+vault


Please note: In my first post on that thread my red arrow is in the wrong location for the body. I corrected with a more detailed map (the one I have a link to below) later on in the thread.


Here is the image of the actual basement of New Scotland Yard. The purple arrow is the approx. location of the torso. The other stuff I will have to post an explanation after I get home from work.

https://i.imgur.com/IuLYvWD.jpg?1
awesome as usual Jerry!

I think this points to the killer having special significance in where he placed this one and or it being one of the workers.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:49 PM
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Hi jerry,
I noticed a line in Brown's evidence that puzzles me. He says in the Daily Telegraph 9 Oct, apparently in response to a question from the jury;

"I do not think it possible that any one could have lowered the parcel from Richmond-mews"

Richmond Mews is in the north-west corner of the building site, whereas we have the torso discovered in the south east somewhere. If this is correct, it would go without saying that it was impossible, yet Brown's answer, according to the Telegraph at least, seems to suggest the idea might have been plausible.
Do we have the torso location all wrong?
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Oops, scratch that. The Times has a slightly fuller version of the same answer;

"By the Jury. - We have had tools lost from the works. I do not think it possible that anyone could have lowered the parcel from Richmond-mews (at the side of Whitehall-gardens) and then have carried it across the grounds to the vaults"

So it sounds to me that the juror was wondering if the body was lowered over the hoarding at that point, rather than directly into the vault as I thought they were suggesting. Perhaps the buildings in the mews were close enough to the fencing to make that possible?
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