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JtR seemed to know that he was under time constraints before his act would be discovered.
JtR indicates that he is able to murder within a window of time that seems to very generally occur in the middle of a PC's beat when he is at the opposite side of his beat to the crime. We know that the unfortunates aided him in this knowledge by taking to him to places where they knew he had the time to get what he paid for.
If JtR was timing things, even subconsciously, it would be better for him to wait with the unfortunate until an officer passes. For example, possibly Mitre Sq., Eddowes was in his embrace as they watched a PC come up Church passage, stop and turn. A few moments later and that is JtR's cue (and hers) to begin. This suggests another possibility. That PC witnesses did, in fact, see JtR with his victim shortly before he murdered them.
So in a way, JtRs timing for exsanguinating and mutilating is the same as quick sex... and probably the same thing in his sexual psychopathic mind.
Anyway, I wonder if JtR didn't actively time the beats. What I didn't know before and I do now, is that stopwatches were around in the 1800s and certainly by 1888 a lot of pocket watches had stopwatches and some even had marine chronometers. So it seems antique gear like this was well able to aid anyone in keeping to a time limit.
JtR seems to have some experience as a burglar. The way he aligns stuff he removes from some of his victims, on purpose, is not an uncommon thing for thieves, especially burglars to do. They do so as not to make noise. One could see the problem JtR would be up against with jangling items in their clothing as he throws stuff around. No, he carefully goes through everything as they bleed out and then he mutilates, as per Chapman. So not only with Eddowes was he mutilating under time constraints... but also robbing them. JtR is also a thief and it doesn't seem he is just behaving like a trophy keeper (which he seems to be), but the laid out pieces done purposefully (Eddowes thimble placed next to her finger) like a burglar would do.
It is interesting we have had suspects involving watches and theft.
BTW, an experiment to repeat what JtR did, should have the experimenter aware of the time constraint factor before they begin and should try to perform the same thing under those conditions. I think it's obvious that experiments to date have been done under pathology conditions, where time is not a constraint, well at least not rushing everything in a few minutes sort of constraints. I think one would find that JtR's slash and grab isn't that hard when the organs are virtually colour coded (no blood) after exsanguination for him to pick and choose after he has disembowelled them and the intestinal organs put aside (as he did from Chapman onwards).
So a pocket watch, even without a stopwatch, would be a useful tool for JtR. I wonder if he ever stood in archways watching with his timepiece out.
And no, this thread is not about a time machine movie involving JtR, but feel free to talk about that if you wish.
JtR indicates that he is able to murder within a window of time that seems to very generally occur in the middle of a PC's beat when he is at the opposite side of his beat to the crime. We know that the unfortunates aided him in this knowledge by taking to him to places where they knew he had the time to get what he paid for.
If JtR was timing things, even subconsciously, it would be better for him to wait with the unfortunate until an officer passes. For example, possibly Mitre Sq., Eddowes was in his embrace as they watched a PC come up Church passage, stop and turn. A few moments later and that is JtR's cue (and hers) to begin. This suggests another possibility. That PC witnesses did, in fact, see JtR with his victim shortly before he murdered them.
So in a way, JtRs timing for exsanguinating and mutilating is the same as quick sex... and probably the same thing in his sexual psychopathic mind.
Anyway, I wonder if JtR didn't actively time the beats. What I didn't know before and I do now, is that stopwatches were around in the 1800s and certainly by 1888 a lot of pocket watches had stopwatches and some even had marine chronometers. So it seems antique gear like this was well able to aid anyone in keeping to a time limit.
JtR seems to have some experience as a burglar. The way he aligns stuff he removes from some of his victims, on purpose, is not an uncommon thing for thieves, especially burglars to do. They do so as not to make noise. One could see the problem JtR would be up against with jangling items in their clothing as he throws stuff around. No, he carefully goes through everything as they bleed out and then he mutilates, as per Chapman. So not only with Eddowes was he mutilating under time constraints... but also robbing them. JtR is also a thief and it doesn't seem he is just behaving like a trophy keeper (which he seems to be), but the laid out pieces done purposefully (Eddowes thimble placed next to her finger) like a burglar would do.
It is interesting we have had suspects involving watches and theft.
BTW, an experiment to repeat what JtR did, should have the experimenter aware of the time constraint factor before they begin and should try to perform the same thing under those conditions. I think it's obvious that experiments to date have been done under pathology conditions, where time is not a constraint, well at least not rushing everything in a few minutes sort of constraints. I think one would find that JtR's slash and grab isn't that hard when the organs are virtually colour coded (no blood) after exsanguination for him to pick and choose after he has disembowelled them and the intestinal organs put aside (as he did from Chapman onwards).
So a pocket watch, even without a stopwatch, would be a useful tool for JtR. I wonder if he ever stood in archways watching with his timepiece out.
And no, this thread is not about a time machine movie involving JtR, but feel free to talk about that if you wish.
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