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Old 12-09-2018, 02:17 PM
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He would still need to reach through the window when he came home and Kelly was inside asleep. He can do that without waking her up or disturbing her.
The case of Kelly may be slightly different because it seems her & Harvey were running a cleaning business from that room, which would necessitate the keeping of clothes belonging to others so she may have been inclined to locking her door when she went out if Mrs Harvey had just brought a bagful of clothes to wash.
She wouldn't want them stolen, but that may have been an infrequent measure.
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Millers Court tenant, 41 year-old charwoman, Julia Venturney, testified—

“She broke the windows a few weeks ago whilst drunk . . .”

Happily, the window got broken before the key went missing. Had the key been lost first, Barnett would have had to deliberately break the window in order to gain access to the room.
So you agree then that McCarthy cannot be expected to know about this recent means of gaining admittance via the broken window?
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Hi Jon,

I do?

Kindly explain.

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The breaking of the window being a recent event. Unless McCarthy had ever had cause to reach through himself he may never have known it was possible.
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Given all the police in attendance with McCarthy,surely someone would have woken up to the fact that if, just one of them put their arm less than 18 inches through the broken window,the door could be easily opened.

Bleedin' obvious as Basil would say.
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It would appear that Abberline wasn't sufficiently savvy to work out for himself the 'arm through the window' trick.

Abberline [inquest testimony]—

"Barnett informs me that it [the key] has been missing some time, and since it has been lost they have put their hand through the broken window, and moved back the catch. It is quite easy."
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Abberline wasn't sufficiently savvy to grab any of the upper class involved in the Cleveland Street Scandal 9 months later.
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Without trying to sound too pedantic, do we know what kind of lock and catch was on the door of 13 Millers Court?
I think I need a key to unlock my brain on this little mystery.
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Without trying to sound too pedantic, do we know what kind of lock and catch was on the door of 13 Millers Court?
I think I need a key to unlock my brain on this little mystery.
there was this thread (with pics courtesy of Bob Hinton): https://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/6718.html
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there was this thread (with pics courtesy of Bob Hinton): https://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/6718.html
Thanks Robert. Interesting stuff and good photo's
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