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You ignore that Baxter is considering more than one doctor's opinion on the murders and has correctly LINKED them, and then sided with the opinion that Nichols had actually had her throat cut first like Chapman.

Baxter was correct.

You also ignore Bond, a doctor who was given a meta-analysis, agreed with Baxter.

Instead, you want Cross to now be confused over his MO and signature. You bend reality to have Cross slicing a throat that isn't bleeding out when he calls a witness over to see him practically at it.
Incredulously, the medical implications do not change in retrospect on account of added victims.

Who would have thought that?

As for bending reality, I can´t do that. Reality is unbendable, try as you might.

I cannot work up the will to exchange any further with you tonight. I´ll leave you to play with your profiling toys.

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And THAT is how long it took before Harry had to resort to the "Griffiths was probably kept in the dark" card!

Thank´s Harry! End of the road, finally. All other options emptied out and found insufficient.
Griffiths' word carries no more weight than anyone else's if we aren't privy to the information he was provided with when forming his opinion, otherwise it's what we call an argumentum ad verecundiam.
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I think levy could be a compelling suspect but theres nothing that ties him to the case... Hes really just one of a long list of crazy jew profile types started with andersons theory , through Fido and carried on through today.
The good news is that it's not only Jews that were crazy. Indeed, the list of 38 contemporary Whitechapel Infirmary "lunatics/maniacs" I posted the other day contained no Jewish names at all, as far as I can remember.
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What needs to "tie him" to the case? How many serial killers are witnesses? How many serial killers are on modern police radar, let alone in the 19th century?



I'm pretty sure Tracy Ianson's research proved they were related.



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Hi harry
At the very least there needs to be something that ties them to the case. Posibly being related to a witness dosnt cut it. You could pick anyone out of a hat and fit them up to be the ripper but with no known connection to the case its a pretty useless.

Plus its andersons prejudiced theory anyway a crazy jew. Lol. Cmon.

We could take any lame profile crazy jew, butcher, american, doctor, insane etc or any combo of these and find hundreds of people who fit the bill. Its really just a glorified parlour game.
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Incredulously, the medical implications do not change in retrospect on account of added victims.
They most certainly can and one function of the Coroner is to legally recognize the need to amend previous findings when new information arrives.

This can happen in a series of events, such as with disease, epidemics or a series of violent homicides.

It is exactly this sort of series in which a serial offender is at large that can undergo such amendments the more we learn.

A meta-review can and does revise/amend the content it is reviewing.

This most certainly applies the most to historical situations.
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Plus its andersons prejudiced theory anyway a crazy jew. Lol. Cmon.
Anderson had his reasons. There's a strong possibility the killer was a Jew when we examine the characteristics of the murders. The throat-cutting, for instance, may have been ritualistic rather than a simple practical matter.
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What Anderson didn't know, he made up or cribbed from others.

He got his Polish Jew suspect from Macnaghten's memorandum.
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Hi Simon,

Did Swanson get it from Mac's memorandum as well?
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Hi Scott,

Which of the Swanson family do you mean?

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Anderson had his reasons. There's a strong possibility the killer was a Jew when we examine the characteristics of the murders. The throat-cutting, for instance, may have been ritualistic rather than a simple practical matter.
Hi harry
Eventhough ive got koz on my top tier of possible suspects, i think the evidence shows tje killer was NOT a jew. The cry of lipski and GSG for example.
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