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Wow! Does that really say that Louis D (if he was caretaker in 1887) had 5 kids living at the club?
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Perhaps not Louis D, who was the steward, but possibly this man, Israel Goldstein, in the residential part of the building:



In 1887, Booth's researcher identified the caretaker of the IWMC, living at 40, Berner Street, as a married man with 4 children of school age and one under a year old. He was a Jew, 'supposedly a tailor' and carried out 1b work (I've no idea either). No name was provided.

In 1888, Booth's researcher recorded a tailor named Goldstein at 40, BS. The grade 1B2 was recorded and he was described as a Gen(eral) T(ailor).

The 1891 census shows a Polish-born tailor named Israel Goldstein living at 40, BS. He is married with 5 children, ages 17, 11, 8, 6 and 2. His mother and brother-in-law are also part of the household as are two boarders, one of whom is shown as occupying 3 rooms. The number of rooms occupied by the Goldsteins is not shown, which means it was at least 5. Quite a substantial household.

The age of the youngest child doesn't match, but otherwise Izzy G looks promising as the club's 1888 caretaker.

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Joshua,

Perhaps not Louis D, who was the steward, but possibly this man, Israel Goldstein, in the residential part of the building:



In 1887, Booth's researcher identified the caretaker of the IWMC, living at 40, Berner Street, as a married man with 4 children of school age and one under a year old. He was a Jew, 'supposedly a tailor' and carried out 1b work (I've no idea either). No name was provided.

In 1888, Booth's researcher recorded a tailor named Goldstein at 40, BS. The grade 1B2 was recorded and he was described as a Gen(eral) T(ailor).

The 1891 census shows a Polish-born tailor named Israel Goldstein living at 40, BS. He is married with 5 children, ages 17, 11, 8, 6 and 2. His mother and brother-in-law are also part of the household as are two boarders, one of whom is shown as occupying 3 rooms. The number of rooms occupied by the Goldsteins is not shown, which means it was at least 5. Quite a substantial household.

The age of the youngest child doesn't match, but otherwise Izzy G looks promising as the club's 1888 caretaker.
At 12:55am a Leon Goldstein passed by the open gates...is this possibly the same man?
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