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Why wouldn't that surprise you?
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Why wouldn't that surprise you?
Pretty much a clear run from the rear of the WLI through 46 to the Essex Wharf.

Don't know where the Turret clock came from though.

Princess Louise was the mystery donor towards the WLI.
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It appears that the gates to Brown's Stable Yard were closed but not locked.

PC Neil: Inquest—"The gateway was closed. It was about nine or ten feet high, and led to some stables."

[I have not yet found an instance of PC Neil saying the gates were locked].

Emma Green: Inquest—"A constable went into the yard with my son, and they returned with a broom, and washed the stains away." [Evening Standard 18th September 1888].

If the gates were locked, who unlocked them?
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It appears that the gates to Brown's Stable Yard were closed but not locked.

PC Neil: Inquest—"The gateway was closed. It was about nine or ten feet high, and led to some stables."

[I have not yet found an instance of PC Neil saying the gates were locked].

Emma Green: Inquest—"A constable went into the yard with my son, and they returned with a broom, and washed the stains away." [Evening Standard 18th September 1888].

If the gates were locked, who unlocked them?
No one, because it was Mrs Green's yard they got the broom from?
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Hi MrBarnett,

Most enlightening.

Thank you.

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Hi MrBarnett,

Most enlightening.

Thank you.

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It was a question, Simon.

Here's another: why would an East End yard containing valuable building materials have been left unlocked? The bell alone would have been worth a few bob.
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As no address other than Bucks Row was given on the auction notice [The Times, 29 December 1888] I am now tending toward the idea that the auction of bricks and other building materials was held on the opposite side of Bucks Row at the premises of James Brown, Son and Blomfield, renowned brick makers, who owned and occupied Essex Wharf, and for whom Walter Purkiss worked.

This is the same James Brown who owned the stable yard in front of whose gates Polly Nichols was found.
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https://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Essex_Wharf

Blomfield was James Brown's son in law.
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Hi Simon. As always, I admire your tenacity. But if I was the Chief Constable, and you were one of my Chief Inspectors, and you were studying the sale of a ton of bricks next to one of the murder sites, I would kindly ask you to get your backside back to work.

James Monro heavily implied there was a scandal associated with the Whitechahpel Murders. A scandal so dire he would not even mention it to his wife. Kosminski need not apply.

This is, and must always be, the starting point out of any serious inquiry. Best wishes. RJ Palmer
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James Monro heavily implied there was a scandal associated with the Whitechahpel Murders. A scandal so dire he would not even mention it to his wife. Kosminski need not apply.

This is, and must always be, the starting point out of any serious inquiry. Best wishes. RJ Palmer
What did James Monro,Henry Smith and RL Stevenson all have in common?

As pointed out several times,Henry Smith was the model for Inspector Newcomen. So named for an obvious reason.

Sir Danvers Carew MP was based on someone who died from a chloral hydrate overdose in June 1885.
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