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I wonder what was kept in the large building behind no. 9 with BUILDER emblazoned across it? I think I have a photo of no. 9 somewhere. I'll try to dig it out.
And the open courtyard to the east of it, with building labled coach house?

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And the open courtyard to the east of it, with building labled coach house?

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That was presumably accessed from the Whitechapel Road.

That little corner of Whitechapel was always somewhat horsey, I believe - stables, horse dealers, knackers etc. HB was there because William Monk had been there before and bequeathed his business to William Barber, the father of Alfred who hooked up with John Harrison to create the horse-slaughtering monopoly of HB.
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That was presumably accessed from the Whitechapel Road.

That little corner of Whitechapel was always somewhat horsey, I believe - stables, horse dealers, knackers etc. HB was there because William Monk had been there before and bequeathed his business to William Barber, the father of Alfred who hooked up with John Harrison to create the horse-slaughtering monopoly of HB.
Looking at Goad and OS, both 73 and 93-95 looks like access from Brady


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Looking at Goad and OS, both 73 and 93-95 looks like access from Brady


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I was being lazy, Steve, just going on the cropped imaged posted by Simon. Of course, you're right. There is an archway from Brady Street into the coach house yard. Plenty of such premises in the area, including ones that would have required the amount and type of building materials listed in the advert.
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You'll notice that Deb's tax record shows a house and yard at no. 9 occupied by someone named J E Hartshorne. The directory Simon posted shows a building supplies dealer named Jane Eliza Hartshorne at that address.

That's most likely where the materials from the large (much larger than Browns) stables were being stored.
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I was being lazy, Steve, just going on the cropped imaged posted by Simon. Of course, you're right. There is an archway from Brady Street into the coach house yard. Plenty of such premises in the area, including ones that would have required the amount and type of building materials listed in the advert.

Yes, and with a coach house, there may have been a clock.

Fascinating stuff, unfortunatly still no real evidence of exit from Winthrop to Brown's Yard, still you can't have everything Gary


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Didn't Simon's post say that the auction was to take place "on the premesis" in Buck's Row, rather than Winthrop Street?
As the Goad map showing the Winthrop St courtyard and coach house is from 1890 it's presumably not the one that was cleared by the auction.

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Yes, and with a coach house, there may have been a clock.

Fascinating stuff, unfortunatly still no real evidence of exit from Winthrop to Brown's Yard, still you can't have everything Gary


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No, indeed. To me the maps suggest two separate premises. And I ask myself, if you have a main entrance on Bucks Row, why do you need a back door in Winthrop Street?
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No, indeed. To me the maps suggest two separate premises. And I ask myself, if you have a main entrance on Bucks Row, why do you need a back door in Winthrop Street?
Wouldn't surprise me if the Brown's were still attempting to sell the materials, salvaged from the site where the Working Lads Institute was built several years earlier, from Essex Wharf rather than Winthrop Street.
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