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Old 09-25-2018, 08:51 AM
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Hi,
Does not the fleeing of Strides killer towards Mitre square,indicate that the murderer was heading back to his dwelling.?
Rather like the man hurrying through the square on the morning of the 9th Nov, around 10.10am., bloodstained, carrying a parcel.
Was he the same person?
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Does not the fleeing of Strides killer towards Mitre square,indicate that the murderer was heading back to his dwelling.?
I think it's safer to assume that it was his flight from Mitre Square that gives us a clue to where Jack the Ripper lived. Where Stride's killer lived, and the direction he took after killing her, is another matter
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Yes, it does seem strange that an interpreter was there for Schwartz to give his statement but one couldn't be found for the whole time the inquest was going on, including after the adjournment.
Yeah.Most likely mistrusting Schwartz was simple as his story changed, from the BS man saying "Lipski" to the second man to the Star report "but just as he stepped from the kerb a second man came out of the doorway of the public-house a few doors off, and shouting out some sort of warning to the man who was with the woman, rushed forward as if to attack the intruder. The Hungarian states positively that he saw a knife in this second man's hand".That's it,just for that this witness was unreliable,it was a big change/difference.It was like Hutch's "I saw a PC,a lodger going in a lodging house but no one else".
So we are left with Brown's description as the last Stride sighting when she was alive.But Brown's time was estimated,not against a timepiece,it could have been off by several minutes.His sighting was most likely past Smith's 12:30-12:35?

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If Strides killer was the killer of Eddowes, then surely he would not have known he would come across another victim en -route Home, and because of that may have tried to disguise the route after the killing.
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If Strides killer was the killer of Eddowes, then surely he would not have known he would come across another victim en -route Home, and because of that may have tried to disguise the route after the killing.
...by heading into the most densely-populated, and more densely policed, part of East London?
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For what reason do we include Stride?

Because if we didn't include her it would imply that more than one killer was at work, which would ruin the mythos of Jack the Ripper.

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For what reason do we include Stride?

Because if we didn't include her it would imply that more than one killer was at work, which would ruin the mythos of Jack the Ripper.
It would ruin the mythos of the Double Event, at any rate.
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Certainly. And that in turn would have ruined the mythos of the whole C5 scenario, which the cops dined out on for years.
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Certainly. And that in turn would have ruined the mythos of the whole C5 scenario
Indeed, but we'd still be left with a "Mythos of the C4" to dispel.
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Which leaves you to explain the odd-woman-out.
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