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The first person I suspected to be the Ripper was a policeman, as it was so strange how many of them were out on the streets patrolling like there was no tomorrow, but the Ripper still managed to kill. If the Ripper was a policeman or had any connection to the Police, then they most likely left the job or had been dismissed before the killings began. Someone on the boards a few years back had also suggested that Jack may have been an employee of the Transport or Railway Police and made his escape via railway lines/tracks. I guess this is still up for discussion/debate.

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The autumn or terror could be explained by more LE out on the beat and if JtR was LE then he could have been one of them and in the perfect position to carry out a string of attacks over a short period of time.

So what changed after the murder of Mary Kelly? He seemed to have 'stopped' or at least slowed down.
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Nice fimd suspect.
Absolutely seems like this guy is suspicious. I didnt see were it said he had florid complextion though.
Anyone find anything else on george compton?
I wonder if that could be George Chapman.
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The autumn or terror could be explained by more LE out on the beat and if JtR was LE then he could have been one of them and in the perfect position to carry out a string of attacks over a short period of time.
The Autumn of Terror was something the police responded to by greatly adding to the number of officers on the streets. They didn't cause the Autumn of Terror so they can't be the explanation for it.
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The Autumn of Terror was something the police responded to by greatly adding to the number of officers on the streets. They didn't cause the Autumn of Terror so they can't be the explanation for it.
If you go back to the OP I have referenced how Joseph James DeAngelo was LE and the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker. During the EAR crimes, there was an increase in police presence. He was LE. When he was fired from LE, the number of crimes he was able to commit completely dropped off the radar. He turned to murder, but his murders were spread over a five-six year period as opposed to the tens of dozens of rapes and hundreds of stalking incidents as the EAR, while being LE. The only conclusion we can draw from this was that as LE he was enabled to commit more crimes than when he wasn't LE.

So the word enable would be a much better word than causation in this example and I would say the same when applying the hypothesis to JtR. If LE, they didn't cause it, but if JtR was LE, then it may have enabled him.

Imagine for example if he knew all the beats and stakeouts.

He could vanish into the night. One step ahead all the time. Could take any risk he wanted.
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Default Same Blotchy seen by Cox with Mary Kelly. Working with police.

The Echo 17 Nov 1888

EAST END ATROCITIES
THE STEPNEY CLERK'S STATEMENT.
The only news to hand serves to explain another of those mysterious stories which have increased the popular excitement. The police now state that the man who aroused the suspicion of Mr. Galloway, the Stepney clerk, by frequently crossing and recrossing the road is a respectable citizen, and that he was, as a matter of fact, acting in concert with them in his "mysterious movements."
There is some news this morning, however, of the man "with the blotchy face and carroty moustache," He is averred to have been seen at a late hour, yesterday, in Battersea Park Road, at a period subsequent to that in which he is said to have been seen in Queen Victoria Street. The police were at once on the alert, but without any result.

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Ex-officer maybe? As in policeman.

Then there is the officer (although military) connection with Martha Tabram.
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Knowing the beats is not the same as knowing where each officer was,or would be, at any particular time.As all beat officers in Whitechapel walked the beats,there was a good chance of them noticing an officer off beat.
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The Echo 17 Nov 1888

EAST END ATROCITIES
THE STEPNEY CLERK'S STATEMENT.
........... The police now state that the man who aroused the suspicion of Mr. Galloway, the Stepney clerk, by frequently crossing and recrossing the road is a respectable citizen, and that he was, as a matter of fact, acting in concert with them in his "mysterious movements."
What does this scenario suggest to you?
What was happening?
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With the audacity of the murders and the elusiveness of the murderer, it's tempting to think that the killer must have had some kind of inside track to always remain one step ahead of the law. Bear in mind that the other murders and attacks in Whitechapel at that time were unsolved, same goes for the Torso series. Crimes of this nature were not the bread and butter of the Victorian police force. Random, seemingly motiveless murders where the victims were selected by chance. They had little to no experience investigating serial killers, nor were they equipped with the modern forensic techniques to catch the perpetrator ex postfacto. Personally, I think like most serial killers, the Ripper had the right combination of low cunning and dumb luck to get away with it.
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Hey, Trevor did you know a cop was behind the Visalia Ransacker, East Area Rapes and the Original Night Stalkings?

Want to see the crime spree Officer Joseph James DeAngelo racked up?

http://www.goldenstatekiller.com/attacks.php

Keep scrolling.

Everything is back on the cards with regards to possible LE involvement, IMO. Read the OP.
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