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Old 08-15-2018, 11:40 AM
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Hi Simon. Yeah, that's one of my three tailors; but he's 47 in 1888 with several mouths to feed, so why is he playing pitch and toss in McCarthy's Rents on a Friday morning before heading off to the boozer for a late liquid breakfast? Doesn't strike me as very likely to be our chap.

The other two can be found in 1881. One in Boar's Head Yard, Whitechapel; the other in Tenters Court, Spitalfields. Same story. Middle-aged family men.

Must have been a slow day in the East End. The volume on my stench-o-meter isn't cranked as high as yours, but even I can smell something fishy about that one. I humbly suggest that 'Maurice Lewis' has been misidentified.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:00 AM
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Default Liverpool mercury Tuesday, July 1, 1890. Morris Lewis

Found this chap in the Liverpool Mercury that may be Morris Lewis?
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:06 AM
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Found this chap in the Liverpool Mercury that may be Morris Lewis?
The timescale worries me. In two years, he goes from a slum dweller playing pitch and toss to become the secretary of a Trade Union? Not impossible, but it doesn't quite work for me.

Good find, though.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:44 AM
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Default Another Morris Lewis 1881 census

This one was in the school register of daughter Miriam Lewis. The area is Christchurch....
Lewis Morris 46 (Tailor) and Betsy 35 (wife)
Children David 16, Esther 15, Barnett 11, Reuben 6, Milly 3, Miriam 5 months.
Mum, dad, David and Esther all born in Poland the other children born in England.
Living at 3 Tenter Court Christchurch nr Tenter street Spitalfields.

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Old 08-16-2018, 06:49 AM
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Default 1891 Morris Lewis

Living at 17 Brunswick street, St George in the East in 1891 same family one extra young son Jacob.....Still a tailor...
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:54 AM
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Living at 17 Brunswick street, St George in the East in 1891 same family one extra young son Jacob.....Still a tailor...
Can't quite see a middle aged, gainfully employed head of a Jewish family playing a somewhat childish gambling game for pennies in a predominantly gentile slum.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:19 AM
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Default Another Morris Lewis ...Criminal records

From Ancestry Criminal records ......

Morris Lewis acquitted of Larceny from a dwelling house and receiving
2nd Jan 1889 at Clerkenwell

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Default Spelman street Morris Lewis 1891 census

21 Spelman street
Morris Lewis Tailor aged 50 with
Rachel 47
Daughter Sarah 11 years old.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 AM
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Morris Lewis acquitted of Larceny from a dwelling house and receiving
2nd Jan 1889 at Clerkenwell
That's closer to the mark. Dorset Street and its environs were, after all, described as "vicious and semi-criminal" by Charles Booth. Perhaps Maurice/Morris Lewis was a saint among sinners, but we've got to start somewhere!
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Morris Lewis acquitted of Larceny from a dwelling house and receiving
2nd Jan 1889 at Clerkenwell

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I liked this one too. He was aged 22 and a tailor.
The charge was the theft of property from the dwelling of Abraham Abrahams.
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