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Old 07-12-2018, 02:34 PM
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Took place at the Shoreditch Town Hall.

Mary Kelly's body was next door to St Leonards Church.

I did not suggest Hutchinson was at the inquest.

Surmised that Henry Gawen Sutton was.
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:54 PM
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Took place at the Shoreditch Town Hall.

Mary Kelly's body was next door to St Leonards Church.

I did not suggest Hutchinson was at the inquest.

Surmised that Henry Gawen Sutton was.
There's a report somewhere that the inquest chamber was under repair, and a smaller ante-chamber was designated for the Kelly inquest.
The Casebook Newspaper Search routine isn't working yet, we'll have to wait till they fix it to find that report - if it matters?

I know of no list of members of the public in attendance.
No, you didn't suggest Hutch was there, the argument requires it. Others have suggested it though.
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Old 07-12-2018, 03:01 PM
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Not if Sutton was Jack the Ripper.

In fact Sutton did not need to be there. Phillips could have told him.

I know about the repairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLlv_aZjHXc
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This is all I could find at present - the room being small.

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Agreed.

If the medical officer of the Vestry Board,who has already been sought out for his expert opinion on Eddowes' kidney,asked to be among the "very few",do you reckon he had a very good chance?

The Vestry Board met in the Town Hall. Coincidence.
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Jon,
It was you that raised the question of police procedures,including he means of police recording events.It was you that claimed Hutchinson was a groom,when on the statement he is described as unemployed labourer.

Hutchinson left Dorset street about 3am,having been there three quarters of an hour,so arrival time about 2.15.Lewis, accordind to you, arrived after 2.30.Ho w could they have seen the same couple,if,according to Hutchinson,Kelly and companion went up the court three minutes after arriving at the entrance.


Of course the descriptive paragraph was written by Badham.The whole interview statement was.The content however was supplied by Hutchinson.The manner of which it was presented on paper was a personnel choice of Badham.
Where do you get the idea that there was a Format that had to be adhered to,or was in use by police at that time.Show evidence of such.
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:36 AM
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Yes Abby, but there were legitimate suspect descriptions available, he had no need to make one up.
Your favorite 'peaked-cap' man for instance. All three of the Double-event suspects were published in the Daily Telegraph on the 12th. The PC Smith suspect, Broad-shouldered man, & your guy.

Why create something completely out of the ordinary like Astrachan?
Because he already knew that they were conducting surveillance on someone who fit the general description, in particular, the specific type of coat he wore.

Since they did not later suggest that Issacs was the suspect that Hutch provided when they caught up with him, and since there are no other sightings of someone matching his description, it remains an unsubstantiated tale which is incredible in detail and suspect due to the timing of its delivery and the, again unsubstantiated, supposed friendship between the 2. Why would someone who was a friend of someone murdered in that fashion, someone you saw that very night, wait 4 days to come forward? With what might have been a case cracking ID.
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Because he already knew that they were conducting surveillance on someone who fit the general description, in particular, the specific type of coat he wore.

Since they did not later suggest that Issacs was the suspect that Hutch provided when they caught up with him, and since there are no other sightings of someone matching his description, it remains an unsubstantiated tale which is incredible in detail and suspect due to the timing of its delivery and the, again unsubstantiated, supposed friendship between the 2. Why would someone who was a friend of someone murdered in that fashion, someone you saw that very night, wait 4 days to come forward? With what might have been a case cracking ID.
Hi MR
IMHO to wait and see what was already going to be publicly known about the murder, come up with his incredible story and avoid having to appear at the inquest.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:17 AM
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The MJK inquest was held in the Vestry Room of Shoreditch Town Hall.
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The MJK inquest was held in the Vestry Room of Shoreditch Town Hall.
Can still be hired today for a mere 3k per day;
https://www.tagvenue.com/venues/lond...itch-town-hall

https://www.tagvenue.com/rooms/londo...ouncil-chamber

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