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Old 02-24-2018, 10:35 AM
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The partition door is evident in police 'photos of Mary Kelly's body.
It was nailed shut.

26 and 27 were possibly limited to 3.5 floors due the walls shared with their neighbors.

The parlor and it's second floor similarly.
The chimney is obviously not an add on.
Look at next door's chimney. Same wall.

If 13 was an add by Miller,it would be for tenants.
Not mentioned in earlier Censuses.
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The three window configuration we see on #27 is mirrored in #26. #27 has no sloping roof to block the lower middle window but #26 does have the slope roof of #19 with the middle 'hidden' window partially within the roof space. Why would they put a window there in the original build? Indeed, IS it a window?
I'm only going by the windows in the back wall of #27 which certainly do have three windows (slot, middle 7 large) which agree with the sketch. On the sketches there is no 'hidden' middle window evident on #26

What ever that hole is, it is right in the sloped roof space of #19

BUT, to me it is a perfect mirror of the middle window in #27 and it's location is curious!

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The partition door is evident in police 'photos of Mary Kelly's body.
It was nailed shut.

26 and 27 were possibly limited to 3.5 floors due the walls shared with their neighbors.

The parlor and it's second floor similarly.
The chimney is obviously not an add on.
Look at next door's chimney. Same wall.

If 13 was an add by Miller,it would be for tenants.
Not mentioned in earlier Censuses.
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Looks like the top of a doorway to me.
Just have a feeling it is related to access somehow.
Cat flap does make sense

Doubt it is a mirror image of next door's window.

Again,suspect the parlor was added to the plans during construction.
I really don't know.
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"Doubt it is a mirror image of next door's window."

Why? It's clearly in the same configuration as #27's windows. both houses (front and back) are mirrors of each other apart from the addition of the #13/#19 (possible) addon. #27 is 3ft wider due to the inclusion of the over-arch space but regardless, the front windows, the front attic windows, the back slim eaves windows, the main windows & the back attic windows match, so why not that middle rear window?

I do agree, however, that the chimneys for #13/19 look to be original but I guess that IF they build a whole court in the back garden of #27#26 then a chimney stack would not be too much more work.

interesting !

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Looks like the top of a doorway to me.
Just have a feeling it is related to access somehow.
Cat flap does make sense

Doubt it is a mirror image of next door's window.

Again,suspect the parlor was added to the plans during construction.
I really don't know.
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Dave,
The three window configuration we see on #27 is mirrored in #26. #27 has no sloping roof to block the lower middle window but #26 does have the slope roof of #19 with the middle 'hidden' window partially within the roof space.
Richard.

I tend to agree with you about the apparent mirror-image concerning the placement of those rear windows.

The windows in the different colours here indicate the mirro image of the design.

My apologies for the wavering lines.

One of the problems with identifying this small window is that there appears to be an amount of rubble on the roof of the extension behind No.26.
In fact we cannot see the bottom sill of the larger window to the left of this small window.
We can't be sure what is being obscured by all that rubble.

If you notice, the side of the roof on the extension has a wall (indicated in green), which is not shown on contemporary press sketches.
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Is this an optical illusion or is the front wall (or part of it) of #19 /#13 demolished and we are seeing the continuation of the chimney breast (red arrow) with the roof being held up by supports (Green Arrow)?




I can see the down drainpipe at the corner of #19/#13 (below image - blue arrow) but what is the thing that appears like a drainpipe (yellow arrow)? More supports?


I appreciate that we can see the whitewash walls of #13 on the side and front.
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Window frame.
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More accurately,the right hand window panes.
Just depends on the Sun's angle and the the way the picture is developed.
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