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Old 11-22-2017, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by caz View Post

3. I know it was still a crime up to 1967 to indulge in consensual homosexual activity. That was my point. If there were no witnesses willing to testify, everyone involved would have walked unless they claimed one - Tumblety in this case - had forced his attentions on them sexually against their will. They were never going to admit to the crime of consensual activity, were they? I don't know if Tumblety committed these assaults against all four men against their will. Men, persons or boys? If they were all under thirteen it could not have been consensual, but if they were older it's at least possible. I don't even know if they were gay or straight. I was merely suggesting it seems to be a grey area.
According to Oldbailey online, there were 81 cases of gross indecency between 1885 and 1895, and only 8 cases of gross indecency AND indecent assault. I'm sure none of these 73 cases were a case of admitting to the police, yet indecent assault was not involved.

The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
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