Thread: An experiment
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:17 AM
Pierre Pierre is offline
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Originally Posted by David Orsam View Post
Why not just say "The judges will not be blamed for nothing"?

They could only have been men, so writing " are the men who" was superfluous wasn't it?
This is very interesting.

Firstly, the statement by detective officer Daniel Halse as recorded at the inquest was:

"The Juwes are not the men that will be blamed for nothing".

There we see the negation.

Secondly, the use of "men" is not "superfluous". It points to the gender described in the sentence. The sentence thereby contains not only a professional type but also a gender type.

This means that there are two types of human beings described in the text. These two types are also categories, i.e. groups where people belong.

One single person can of course belong to both of these categories.

But, when writing a sentence, if both categories are chosen, they are both important since they have different meanings. The meanings are very different in these two words even though the two categories can overlap and did (perfectly).

One therefore has to ask why the author pointed out the two specific categories in one sentence.

One also has to ask why the author pointed out the first category as not being a category of "men" to be blamed: Was it particular for that category?

This analysis shows that the "Ju**es" were NOT that type of men, they were not included in the category who would be blamed "for nothing".

Compare the GSG to the sentence "They died for nothing".

This means they died in vain.

But the Ju**es were NOT the men that would be blamed in vain.

Also, note the future tense: "WILL not be blamed". The act of blaming is directed towards the future. It is an act lying in the future, of which the author has knowledge at the moment of the writing of the text.

This type of man, from the group of Judges as Steve hypothesized earlier WILL not be blamed in vain. He WILL therefore act against the blame expected against him.

And naturally, the word "men" points to one category of men who are different from another category of men:

the men that will be blamed without doing anything about it.

Finally, "for nothing" also means "without having done anything to deserve it". This meaning is of course connected to "blamed".

So: they are not the type of men that will be blamed in the future without having done anything to deserve it and without doing anything about it.


Last edited by Pierre : 05-22-2017 at 09:28 AM.
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