Mitre Sq, The demise is almost complete

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  • spyglass
    Sergeant
    • Nov 2009
    • 718

    #1

    Mitre Sq, The demise is almost complete

    Hi all,

    Just passed through Mitre Square, and sad to see it now almost completely paved over....no more cobbled Square remains.

    Regards
  • Elamarna
    Commissioner
    • Sep 2014
    • 5807

    #2
    Originally posted by spyglass View Post
    Hi all,

    Just passed through Mitre Square, and sad to see it now almost completely paved over....no more cobbled Square remains.

    Regards
    I had the same experience on Saturday.

    Steve

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    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 22306

      #3
      Going, going, almost gone.

      There will be no more places for the Ripper Walks to walk to soon. Progress.....don't ya just hate it?

      Regards
      HS
      Regards

      Herlock Sholmes

      ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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      • Sam Flynn
        Casebook Supporter
        • Feb 2008
        • 13333

        #4
        Such a shame. Even though it had already changed a lot since 1888, there was still a remarkable atmosphere about Mitre Square; I wonder if that will survive?
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • Herlock Sholmes
          Commissioner
          • May 2017
          • 22306

          #5
          Hi Sam

          You can't help wondering. I was in London in September of last year and did the JTR walk. To be honest I was expecting Rumbelow like the previous year but it was someone else. Mitre Square was half covered in scaffold and I thought about how much the buildings would begin to encroach.
          One day the Ten Bells will be a Poundland!

          Regards
          HS
          Regards

          Herlock Sholmes

          ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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          • Geddy2112
            Inspector
            • Dec 2015
            • 1318

            #6
            I took a friend on a tour round the murder sites at the weekend, or as close as you could get. Mitre Square is sort of now open...

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            • The Station Cat
              Premium Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 641

              #7
              Just been there myself, very sad that it's pretty much "gone", nothing you can get any sort of ambience from anymore. In fact I'm curious to know whether indeed it's still called Mitre Square as there's no sign stating as much?

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              • Geddy2112
                Inspector
                • Dec 2015
                • 1318

                #8
                Originally posted by The Station Cat View Post
                Just been there myself, very sad that it's pretty much "gone", nothing you can get any sort of ambience from anymore. In fact I'm curious to know whether indeed it's still called Mitre Square as there's no sign stating as much?
                Still Mitre Square...

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                • Sam Flynn
                  Casebook Supporter
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 13333

                  #9
                  ..."Public realm enhancement"?

                  A new low for consultant-speak!
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • Robert
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5163

                    #10
                    "Just enhancing the public realm, our kid."

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                    • Phil Carter
                      Commissioner
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4270

                      #11
                      Personally, I tend to look at modern progress in this way.
                      I ask myself "Would the locals from 1888 like an open, bright Mitre Square of today or have it as it was..namely poorly lit, dirty and enclosed one of 1888?"

                      You bet they would have preferred today's version.

                      So for me..the change betters the place. Lets face it, nobody would want it as it was..covered in horse muck, dimly lit and clearly dangerous to walk there. The historical, romantic view isn't realistic in 2017. It isn't exactly St.Paul's Cathedral.
                      i.e. not worth keeping as was. Dorset Street as was? Berner Street as was?..no thanks.

                      Someone was once murdered in Mitre Square.
                      Nothing to celebrate imho.

                      One can still show respect there.



                      Phil
                      Last edited by Phil Carter; 06-22-2017, 05:38 PM.
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                      Justice for the 96 = achieved
                      Accountability? ....

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                      • The Station Cat
                        Premium Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 641

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                        Personally, I tend to look at modern progress in this way.
                        I ask myself "Would the locals from 1888 like an open, bright Mitre Square of today or have it as it was..namely poorly lit, dirty and enclosed one of 1888?"

                        You bet they would have preferred today's version.

                        So for me..the change betters the place. Lets face it, nobody would want it as it was..covered in horse muck, dimly lit and clearly dangerous to walk there. The historical, romantic view isn't realistic in 2017. It isn't exactly St.Paul's Cathedral.
                        i.e. not worth keeping as was. Dorset Street as was? Berner Street as was?..no thanks.

                        Someone was once murdered in Mitre Square.
                        Nothing to celebrate imho.

                        One can still show respect there.



                        Phil

                        Yeh, I'll have that Phil. Good point well made!!!


                        Just out of interest, would one of those blue plaques be in poor taste?

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                        • Rob1n
                          Constable
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 91

                          #13
                          At least the name hasn't changed, what was once a relatively quiet place to sit and think is now a modern toilet, whoever designed this abomination should hang their head in shame.
                          I'm sure it was a good earner for them. Still looks like a crappy modern open space where, to the casual observer, nothing of note could ever or would ever happened here.

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                          • spyglass
                            Sergeant
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 718

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                            Personally, I tend to look at modern progress in this way.
                            I ask myself "Would the locals from 1888 like an open, bright Mitre Square of today or have it as it was..namely poorly lit, dirty and enclosed one of 1888?"

                            You bet they would have preferred today's version.

                            So for me..the change betters the place. Lets face it, nobody would want it as it was..covered in horse muck, dimly lit and clearly dangerous to walk there. The historical, romantic view isn't realistic in 2017. It isn't exactly St.Paul's Cathedral.
                            i.e. not worth keeping as was. Dorset Street as was? Berner Street as was?..no thanks.

                            Someone was once murdered in Mitre Square.
                            Nothing to celebrate imho.

                            One can still show respect there.



                            Phil
                            Hi,

                            Nah!! I realise that there has to be change over time, and I realise that places like Mitre Sq don't have to be saved just because someone was once murdered there.
                            My objection to this sort of thing is that London should still look and feel like London.
                            With all these gleaming tall sterile office blocks and white souless open areas sprouting up everywhere, London now feels and looks like many an identikit US city.
                            At this rate it won't be long before our black cabs are painted yellow.
                            Go to Paris, they still have the same looking streets with the same cobbles and still with the musket shots inbedded dating back to the revolution.

                            Regards

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                            • Yabs
                              Detective
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 371

                              #15
                              Am I right in thinking that Durwood Street is the only location left we’re you can get some kind of sense of the murder site?

                              I’m pretty sure that’s the location left out of some tours too.

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