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Pierre 11-14-2015 02:58 PM

Queen Mary and Lord Mayor
 
Hi,

As you already know I believe that Jack the Ripper planned the murder of Mary Kelly to spoil Lord Mayor´s Day.

I have also stated that I think he posed the dead body the way he did to confirm to the police that he was the murderer (since he was planning to do extensive mutilations on the victim and knew that the police afterwards could have doubts about who the killer was).

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/se...Queen-of-Scots

I have also told you about a letter I think he wrote in the press, giving the adress to Miller´s Court and the name of the victim: Mary.

In this letter he hints at Lord Tennyson. Lord Tennyson wrote a play called "Queen Mary". Lord Mayor was in it to.

http://archive.org/details/cu31924031321478

The play was performed in London.

Regards Pierre

David Orsam 11-14-2015 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360274)
I have also told you about a letter I think he wrote in the press, giving the adress to Miller´s Court and the name of the victim: Mary.

So not Mary Jane Kelly as you told us before. Just Mary?

Pierre 11-14-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Orsam (Post 360275)
So not Mary Jane Kelly as you told us before. Just Mary?

He gives the following:

The name Mary
Her room number
Miller´s Court
The date of the murder

He also gave the number of the room above Mary´s.

Do you know the name of Mary´s first cousin?

Regards Pierre

David Orsam 11-14-2015 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360277)
He gives the following:

The name Mary
Her room number
Miller´s Court
The date of the murder

But this isn't true is it? Because I previously asked you in the other thread if he gave her address in plain English and you said no it was in 'metaphorical language'. Then I asked for clarification and you said it was just your 'interpretation'.

Pierre 11-14-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Orsam (Post 360279)
But this isn't true is it? Because I previously asked you in the other thread if he gave her address in plain English and you said no it was in 'metaphorical language'. Then I asked for clarification and you said it was just your 'interpretation'.

David - you are missing the important information here.

And please reconsider your own hypothesis of a killer writing the actual adress of his next crime to the police.

I´ll get back to you when you have given that some thought.

Regards Pierre

David Orsam 11-14-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360288)
And please reconsider your own hypothesis of a killer writing the actual adress of his next crime to the police.

I have neither formulated nor offered any such hypothesis.

David Orsam 11-14-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360277)
Do you know the name of Mary´s first cousin?

Which Mary are you speaking of here? Mary Jane Kelly or Queen of Scots?

David Orsam 11-14-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360288)
And please reconsider your own hypothesis of a killer writing the actual adress of his next crime to the police.

Just to clarify, that is, or was, your hypothesis:

"He wrote a letter to the editor in a paper not signing it “Jack the Ripper” where he gave the exact address to one of the murder sites."

That is from your post dated 18 September 2015 in the 'I think I have found him' thread.

Pcdunn 11-14-2015 05:37 PM

Presumably the latter's cousin. . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Orsam (Post 360292)
Which Mary are you speaking of here? Mary Jane Kelly or Queen of Scots?

... Queen Elizabeth I.

(This grows more and more interesting...)

Mayerling 11-14-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 360274)
Hi,

As you already know I believe that Jack the Ripper planned the murder of Mary Kelly to spoil Lord Mayor´s Day.

I have also stated that I think he posed the dead body the way he did to confirm to the police that he was the murderer (since he was planning to do extensive mutilations on the victim and knew that the police afterwards could have doubts about who the killer was).

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/se...Queen-of-Scots

I have also told you about a letter I think he wrote in the press, giving the adress to Miller´s Court and the name of the victim: Mary.

In this letter he hints at Lord Tennyson. Lord Tennyson wrote a play called "Queen Mary". Lord Mayor was in it to.

http://archive.org/details/cu31924031321478

The play was performed in London.

Regards Pierre

I have started to read it.
Aye, 'tis quite dark and deep of history -
of false religious pride and zeal that cooked the flames of martyrs,
of Cranmer and Ridley and the rest.
"Tis "Bloody Mary" at the helm, persecuting her ha'sister, the Bullen woman's child.
Wilt she follow mother to the block? Or will false Philip in his power madness seek to protect they young virgin?
And what of de la Pole and his shock from perfidious Rome?

Yeah it is dark and deep of the 1550s.
Too deep for the stage of the 1880s.
I note another play of royalty, "The Princess" and thought of Gama, Hilarion and Ida - but another babing poet had to rewrite that tale with tunes from
a musical knight. FOR THREE ACTS yet (aye, there be the rub!).

And what of promising spring, and the mad-proud noble who ruined ope'ning night by yelling about being a free-thinker, and added one more groan
(which lasted over a decade) to a litany 'til he ruined a man who painted glorious Dorian greyish.

Tis much to consider here. Now for Browning's "Pippa".

Jeff


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