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Jane Maria Clousen, murdered in 1871

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  • #16
    Originally posted by miss marple View Post
    Why was Clousen's deathbed naming of the killer Pook, inadmissable. I thought deathbed confessions were not hearsay. Who was present at her deathbed and heard her admission? If it was a policeman surly he would have written it down and it would have been evidence. If it was a doctor would they not have provided a written statement? A Doctor would have been a credible witness at the time.

    Miss Marple
    Sorry Miss Marple, I have to reread the article to figure out the defect. A deathbed confession or statement had to be made (as I understand it) with the speaker aware of impeding demise for it to have any admissibility, but from what I recall it was more a matter of who heard the statement, not what was said, that disqualified it. Apparently Jane made a comment linking her to Edmund, but to someone who had no legal obligation to relate it. Let me reread the chapter by Smith-Hughes and get back to this later.



    • #17
      Not the first family scandal...Edmund's paternal uncle:
      A searchable online edition of the Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913.

      Victim was probably a niece:

      Spelled "Edmond" here:


      • #18
        The census enumerator in 1871 thought he'd give us a little help.
        Attached Files


        • #19
          Well, at least he didn't put the extra 'er' at the end of the word!


          • #20

            Lots of details in that.


            • #21
              Is there a photo of Jane in existence? An Aussie newspaper report mentioned one :

              In connection with this affair wa have re- ;

              ceived from Mr. Harris, brushmaker, Currie

              streeti a photograph of the murdered girl,

              which was issued at the time of her death. On

              tbe card is a copy of the inscription on the

              monument which was erected to her memory,

              which reads as follows....

              Express and Telegraph, Adelaide, 16th March 1888


              • #22
                Here's a link to the original article - no picture printed with it..

                The R.M.S. Lusitania, which left Adelaide on February 20, arrived at Suez on March 16. The R.M.S. Orient sailed from Suez outward bound on March 17. ...

                And here's the full text of the Sydney confession by "George Ridout Theodore Bingham":

                CONSIDERABLE excitement was causon at Aldershot on Tuesday, the 11th March, on it becoming known that a young soldier of the depot of the 52nd Regiment, stationed at Aldershot, had confessed that he was the ...

                -- What's of great interest to me there is mention of the name "Tripp" as his employer at the time, which pops up elsewhere in connection to this case.. but I can't recall where!


                • #23
                  Bingham's former employer, Mr. Tripp, did have an office in Burleigh street and also clients from the Woolwich area:


                  • #24
                    Bump up
                    "Great minds, don't think alike"


                    • #25
                      Jane Clousen"s close friend Mary Smith, who worked with Jane as a servant/maid, disappeared without trace during the investigation into Jane's murder.

                      That's a striking coincidence.

                      2 friends in the same line of work, who had a direct connection with Pook, and one gets pregnant and is then murdered, while the other disappears.

                      Mr Pook was almost certainly Jane's killer, but there is a slight caveat to that...

                      In the summer of 1870 yet another young woman; who was visiting her brother in Blackheath, disappeared without trace.
                      It was claimed she was last seen talking with a soldier.

                      There was an army cadet barracks in Blackheath, not far from where Jane Clousen was murdered and where the young woman who vanished was last seen alive.

                      Of course, the soldier link may be a false lead.

                      There is a lot more to this case, but far too much to disclose without clogging up this thread.

                      It's likely that the link was made with Jane Clousen's murder in connection to the early Ripper crimes, because of the alleged sighting of a soldier.

                      This can of course be linked to Tabram's murder.

                      The issue is that Pook is as close to guilty as someone can get without being convicted of being guilty.

                      When you look at the Old Bailey trial, it is simply astonishing how he was acquitted.

                      The criminal justice system at it's finest.

                      Last edited by The Rookie Detective; 02-23-2024, 05:34 PM.
                      "Great minds, don't think alike"


                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post
                        When you look at the Old Bailey trial, it is simply astonishing how he was acquitted.
                        If you haven't done so, you should consider reading Pretty Jane and the Viper of Kidbrooke Lane: A True Story of Victorian Law and Disorder by Paul Thomas Murphy.