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  • Michael W Richards
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    If would be a real turn up for the books if we could find a letter penned by the person known as "Jack the Ripper."
    I think its possible a man who was responsible for some of the Canonical murders likely did write at least 1 letter we know of Simon. To Lusk. IF the man who killed Polly and Annie also killed Kate, then for me the package and note Lusk gets is probably what they present themselves as. A piece of Kate and what I interpret as a threat to Lusk is a powerful message.

    I admit Im really not certain someone might have just used the premise to create an impression, but I think that communique might well have been from the actual killer of some of the Canonicals. If he killed Kate.

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  • E.J.H.
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    Thanks OneRound, it's indeed another intriguing lead, I will look into it!

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  • OneRound
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    Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
    One last writing angle. There is also John Humble, the hoaxer who threw authorities off the trail of Peter Sutcliffe.
    Hi E.J.H. - I was going to mention John Humble but Robert beat me to it. Humble was sentenced to 8 years for perverting the course of justice. Although I've no issue with the sentence given to this dreadful wretch, I do question whether the lesser charge of wasting police time (which admittedly would have carried a lesser sentence) would have been more appropriate. It was not so much perversion of justice by Humble but police incompetence that delayed Sutcliffe's arrest and resulted in more lives being killed.

    Another case in which a letter played an incredibly important opening part was The Cameo Murders of 1949 in Liverpool. A cinema manager and his assistant were shot and killed during a botched robbery. The investigation was slowly going nowhere until it was apparently kickstarted by an anonymous letter to the police from minor associates to the crime seeking immunity in exchange for details of the two main players. This ultimately led to the trial, retrial, conviction and execution of George Kelly whilst his alleged partner Charles Connolly was sentenced to 10 years following his separate retrial and a plea bargain to escape the noose. Both - including Connolly despite him pleading guilty to robbery and conspiracy - were posthumously pardoned by the Court of Appeal more than fifty years later. A fascinating case and judgement in which the leading police officer at the time was severely criticised. [If you are interested in following up further, there's a decent wiki page on The Cameo Murders for a recommended starter.]

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  • E.J.H.
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    Okay, let's try Just a disclaimer: this is a humble try on gathering random thoughts on the subject, plus English language is not my native language. So feel free to point out mistakes, both in syntax and in assumptions. The goal is to start a conversation, explore the ideas etc. I'm waiting for your feedback and also suggestions in how to extend the series. Thanks in advance.
    Let's take a closer look at the 700 letters received during the Jack the Ripper case and what they can tell us about humanity and true crime.

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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    Originally posted by E.J.H. View Post
    Regarding Jack the Ripper, I personally don't think he wrote letters. My angle for that case was more the societal study of ordinary citizens deciding to pose as a serial killer the time of a letter, with parallels on contemporary SK fandoms. I don't know if it would be fine to post that article here but if you're interested, I can send you the link in private. It would be a pleasure to discuss with you on the matter.
    I also think that most killers are living in their own world and that communication with the public is not a priority for them, but on the other hand, the attraction of celebrity has gradually risen in criminality. I will dig in the Maury TRavis' case as it seems to be an interesting example of an in-between situation, the criminal looking to make their "voice" heard (so to speak). Thanks also for the Humbler tip, it definitely looks like another pertinent lead for my reflection.
    Sounds interesting, I'm sure it would be appreciated here.

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  • E.J.H.
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    Regarding Jack the Ripper, I personally don't think he wrote letters. My angle for that case was more the societal study of ordinary citizens deciding to pose as a serial killer the time of a letter, with parallels on contemporary SK fandoms. I don't know if it would be fine to post that article here but if you're interested, I can send you the link in private. It would be a pleasure to discuss with you on the matter.
    I also think that most killers are living in their own world and that communication with the public is not a priority for them, but on the other hand, the attraction of celebrity has gradually risen in criminality. I will dig in the Maury TRavis' case as it seems to be an interesting example of an in-between situation, the criminal looking to make their "voice" heard (so to speak). Thanks also for the Humbler tip, it definitely looks like another pertinent lead for my reflection.

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  • Robert St Devil
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    One last writing angle. There is also John Humble, the hoaxer who threw authorities off the trail of Peter Sutcliffe.

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  • Robert St Devil
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    Originally posted by E.J.H. View Post

    Oh thank you, that's perfect, that's exactly what I was looking for! All these cases look very interesting, I can't wait to learn more about them. Thanks again!

    Best of luck on your endeavor EJH, I'd hope you share your project when you have completed it.


    I was never in the "100% Unlikely" camp regarding the more popular JtR letters, not when there are 20th and 21st century cases where the serial killer opted for correspondence. I've also pondered the link between the uncommon course of action of communicating the crime(s) since silence seems an attributed aspect inherent to the career criminal. Alas, therein may lay the answer since many of these killers (apart from compartmentalizing their sadistic deeds) seem to have led unassuming daily existences. For example, Dennis Rader kept a family, worked for his church, and acted as a scout master; and, apart from sharing similar misspellings with the letters being printed in the newspaper, there was no obvious clue that pointed to him being the dreaded BTK haunting the Wichita community.

    If you are seeking parallels with Jack the Ripper, I would first point you in the direction of the St. Louis Strangler aka Maury Travis. He was triggered to communicate after reading an article in the newspaper which humanized his first victim. It has shades of "Dear Boss" where the writer seems triggered by the unsatisfactory title of "Leather Apron" (if you are prone to associate that letter with the Whitechapel murderer). In his letter, Travis calls the journalist's prose a "sob story" and provides a map to the location of another victim. It was thru tracing the IP address of the downloaded Expedia map that the authorities were able to apprehend him.

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  • E.J.H.
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    Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
    Hello EJH
    Maury Travis was a serial killer of several prostitutes in the St Louis area (circa 2000) whose taunting letter-writing to the local newspaper led to his identification and apprehension.

    Another serial killer could be the Otaku murderer in Japan. He sent the remains of one of his child victim to her family along with the postcard reading: "Mari. Cremated. Bones. Investigate. Prove."

    Then there's Slavemaster who used the Internet to procure his victims as well as sending red-herring letters to the family of his victims.

    I wanted to provide various examples of ways that serial killers have communicated themselves through the course of their murders ie. playing egotistical games at the expense of the police, or humiliating the victim's family, or by using writing to lure victims as well as being deceptive for the sake of self-preservation.
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    Oh thank you, that's perfect, that's exactly what I was looking for! All these cases look very interesting, I can't wait to learn more about them. Thanks again!

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  • Robert St Devil
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    Hello EJH
    Maury Travis was a serial killer of several prostitutes in the St Louis area (circa 2000) whose taunting letter-writing to the local newspaper led to his identification and apprehension.

    Another serial killer could be the Otaku murderer in Japan. He sent the remains of one of his child victim to her family along with the postcard reading: "Mari. Cremated. Bones. Investigate. Prove."

    Then there's Slavemaster who used the Internet to procure his victims as well as sending red-herring letters to the family of his victims.

    I wanted to provide various examples of ways that serial killers have communicated themselves through the course of their murders ie. playing egotistical games at the expense of the police, or humiliating the victim's family, or by using writing to lure victims as well as being deceptive for the sake of self-preservation.
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    Last edited by Robert St Devil; 06-23-2020, 06:46 AM.

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  • harry
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    E.J.H.
    It was real.It had all the elements you mention.It is not known about because of the secrecy that surrounded it.You can read about it in one of Fleming's novels,but it needs interpretation.As do most cryptic communications of the type you seem to want.
    However,I accept it is more of an historical than criminal incident,and would need a different kind of research,which is probably beyond your scope.

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  • E.J.H.
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    E.J.H.
    How about Ian Fleming?
    Okay, didn't know about that conspiracy theory, but actually this is not the kind of research I'd like to focus on. It has to be a real criminal case involving writings/a criminal who wrote. I enjoy to read about a lot of things but precisely because I tend to spread myself, I'd like to keep the same direction in this personal project. Thanks for your understanding

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  • harry
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    E.J.H.
    How about Ian Fleming?

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  • Simon Wood
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    If would be a real turn up for the books if we could find a letter penned by the person known as "Jack the Ripper."

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  • E.J.H.
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    A well known author who wrote a story based on a crminal conspiracy in which he was involved?
    Do you have more details?

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