Most intriguing unsolved non-JtR serial killer cases

[sdreid]

It's a sort of perishable pavement I suppose.

[sdreid]

Gravel was considered a type of paving back then but I never considered anything that flies up when you drive over it as pavement.

[sdreid]

Was any of this route ever a part of the ALCAN Highway?

They called it a highway but it was actually still a gravel road when I was kid.

[sdreid]

That sounds like that could have been a close call Beowulf.

[Beowulf]

However, I do believe it was called the "Ted Case" by some after he gave his actual Christian name to one of the women he tried to "befriend" at Lake Sammamish.

Rule #1 from the Serial Killer handbook, 'Don't use real name'.

You know, back before Ted Bundy was caught my sister had a possible date with him.

Never really sure.

She lived with my mother and was introduced to a young man who was so delightful, as reported by an elderly couple whom my sister met at their garage sale here in Phoenix.

They gave my sister his number, they had a long phone call and he asked her for a date.

I came by when my sister was going out, it was early as I remember because the sun was still out. I answered the door to the man and he asked for my sister, said he'd wait outside. I went to get her, she left and got in his gold colored Volkswagen bug. Few min later my sister comes in, slams the front door and I said 'what happened'. She, being all dressed up in a dress and stockings and all, got angry because when he opened the front door for her there was no seat. She said she didn't want to sit on the floor, he said he'd put some newspapers down for her to sit on so as not to get dirty. She told him forget it. Stormed in.

So, remembering dimly what he looked like I saw him on the news when they started searching for him. I kept asking her to come and see him when he was featured, she came into the living room saying, 'oh, for heavens sakes, will you stop it. I was not out with Ted Bun...and she stopped on a dime on that word when she saw his photo on the news.

A min later she said under her breath 'he looks like him!'

But of course, he was never supposed to have been in Phoenix.

Btw; my sister had long brown hair, parted in the middle.

[sdreid]

It's hard to tell exactly from the maps.

[sdreid]

Was any of this route ever a part of the ALCAN Highway?

[Sis]

Do you know why they chose those parameters when narrowing down the potential list?

If they think Fowler did some and not others, that would mean there were multiple killers operating in the area.

This highway route is a link to the Yukon and Alaska highways. The stretch of highway around Prince George to Prince Rupert is where most of the victims have either disappeared from or their remains were found. I’ve traveled that highway, also once went on a gravel logging road to pick up someone from wilderness survival camp.
That stretch of highway:
- has very remote wilderness or forests on both sides of the road.
- has many logging and hunting roads running that go deep into the forests where bodies can be dumped and never found or screams would never be heard.
- has a lot of small towns or communities in the area where if you don’t have a car the only other method transportation is hitch hiking.

I believe there is a possibility of a serial killer who either lived or frequented the area surrounding Prince George between 1969 and 2006. Also another serial killer considering there are so many other missing and murdered persons (including males and a family) from this area who are not on the highway of tears list.
In 2010 a 20 yr old Cody Legebokoff was accused and is waiting trial for killing four women from Prince George area between Oct. 2009 to Nov. 2010 who weren't on the list. He is not a suspect for the highway of tears murders (1969 to 2006) because he is too young plus it appears he met at least one of his victims online.
My calculations are two suspects accused of multiple murders Legebokoff and Fowler plus at least two more possibilities of serial killers in the area over the last 4 decades.

[GUT]

G'day Sis

Our posts crossed as I said multiples actually seem likely.

[Sis]

If I were to guess I’d say because the cases were too similar. If you look at the 3 victims that are considered to be by Fowler they look so much alike they could be the same girl. Yes there are at least two serial killers.

Clifford Olson the serial child killer is also considered to have killed Verna Bjerky in 1981 near Hope (She is not on the list of HOT). While incarcerated he claimed to have knowledge of Verna Bjerky's murder and 11 other children but would only give details if he gained something in return.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Photos+H...572/story.html

[GUT]

I'd never noticed before now that we are talking about 800 kms of road so I guess multiples is not so unreasonable over 40+ years.

[GUT]

G'day Sis

Do you know why they chose those parameters when narrowing down the potential list?

If they think Fowler did some and not others, that would mean there were multiple killers operating in the area.

[Sis]

Highway of Tears was originally considered highway16 in BC Canada but investigators have included highway 5 and 97. Locals say there are 43 victims in 4 decades since 1969 to 2006 but the task force narrowed it down to 18 by selecting only the cases that met the following criteria: victims must be female and match at least one of the two following scenarios: they were involved in a high-risk activity such as hitchhiking or the sex trade, or they were last seen or their body was found within a mile or so from three specific B.C. highways.

Coleen MacMillen (1974) the DNA on her blouse was recently a positive match to Bobby Jack Fowler, an American, who died in a prison in the US. He is considered to the likely suspect in the deaths of Gale Weys and Pam Darlington in 1973 as well. He is not a suspect in all of the murders as he was incarcerated at the time of their disappearances.

In Kamloops on April 2011 a 20 yr female was flagged down by a man (60’s-70”s) with long white beard and hair (with Alberta plates & 4 ways on his pickup truck). When she got out of her car to help he tried to force her into his truck. She managed escape by punching and kicking him in groin she described him as being strong and built like a fire truck. A 20 yr female went missing while camping just south of Vanderhoof in May 2011. Her tent and truck were left at camp but her cell phone and keys are missing.

The area around those highways is vast wilderness of mountains, valleys, rivers and forests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders

[Robert]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-26577107

[Robert]

There's a mystery going on here at the moment :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572860/Who-mystery-man-dead-Cornish-beach-Police-release-artists-impression-balding-man-bushy-white-beard.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490