Ipswich Prostitute Murders

[juan.kerr]

We dont really know how much was planned. There will always be the question of "Was there an accomplice or not?". Its probably smarter to know the area you are "Working" in. Maybe he rented the flat for the purpose of killing?
These Women were lured into a false sense of security. They felt secure enough to go into his house. Even after "The Ripper Scare" was on. Theres no doubt Wright used every trick he had to secure his victims trust.

Exactly !!!. Wright is according to people who knew and worked with him "Not the brightest candle in the box" he does not possess the mental capability to plan all this.
Tom Stephens an ex special in the red light district of Norwich certainly does have the knowledge and mental capacity to plan all these very complicated acts.... regards jsi

One of the trial witnesses reported seeing two cars in the layby adjacent to the deposition sites on Old Felixstowe Road.

One of them, the darker coloured car, was presumably Wright's Mondeo while the other was identified as a Renault Clio.

At least one of the final two bodies did not show any signs of having been dragged to the deposition site, therefore it is reasonable to conclude that two people carried at least one of the bodies. A body carried by one person would show signs of being dumped onto the ground, and the ground too would show signs of the impact of a body being dumped.

In his summing up, the judge suggested that more than one person may have been involved in the both the murder and/or the deposition of the bodies, although there was only one suspect in the dock.

[jsi2010]

[QUOTE=Mitch Rowe;43725]We dont really know how much was planned. There will always be the question of "Was there an accomplice or not?". Its probably smarter to know the area you are "Working" in. Maybe he rented the flat for the purpose of killing?
These Women were lured into a false sense of security. They felt secure enough to go into his house. Even after "The Ripper Scare" was on. Theres no doubt Wright used every trick he had to secure his victims trust.

Exactly !!!. Wright is according to people who knew and worked with him "Not the brightest candle in the box" he does not possess the mental capability to plan all this.
Tom Stephens an ex special in the red light district of Norwich certainly does have the knowledge and mental capacity to plan all these very complicated acts.... regards jsi

[jsi2010]

Hi Anna,

That is of course assuming Pam had nothing to do with it.

Wright admitting to having several prostitutes home and at one point stated he was afraid Pam would find out because of perfume left on the bed!

Perhaps Pam turned a blind eye to the prostitution business, standing by her man, and becoming an unwitting pawn in Steve Wrights game.

After all there is a long history of partners killing together.

Mike

I think you will find that Pam Wright is just a woman who is a bit of a drunk Steve Wright has not the brain power to deal with this !., he was just a sex addict who was a pay and go guy... Tom Stephens on the other hand has all the right traits he is a clever manipulator and has had inside knowledge all the way through. Check it out see for yourselves !!

[jsi2010]

Wether you agree with these girls methods of making money or not they died because of some lunatic getting sexual gratification!

We must remember that certain situations arise in our lives that makes us take drastic actions to try and overcome them.

Perhaps these girls were struggling to buy money for food, shelter or the inevitable drugs.

I have several friends who have gone into "Non Sex Escort Services"

Why?

The first did it to support her three kids after her husband died, the second did it to get enough money to by a house after her husband beat her to within an inch of her life.

I know and have known several people who have gone into "Chat Line" work, to pay off bills and provide for their families.
One girl told me, the dirtier you get the more you earn!
I was a manager of a busy retail store at the time, and my wife was a supervisor of a similar store and this girl was taking home double what we were earning!!

We must also remember these girls had families.

Nice to see you back DP

They were not ever sexual murders !!!

[jsi2010]

Yes its interesting this case...I think Mitch is refering to the fact that Wright worked on the same ship as suzi, bizarrely more at the time you would expect the profile of a serial killer to start.

48 is very old for a serial killer and I would expect that these murderers weren't the first if he was the killer.

(Turned out Sally Anna Bowmans killer Mark Dixie, had stuck before in Australia, but not in the UK, he was only cault by chance..)

Still i except that its a very strange case. I'd think it odd if he appeared that old as a serial killer out of no where.

yours Pirate

Tom Stephens fitted and still fits the bill like a glove and he IS involved because I saw him on december 11th at 1.50pm disposing of Paula Clenelle and I saw the body of Annette Nicholls. I reported this no less than three times. yet no one has EVER spoken to me about this WHY ????

[jsi2010]

We dont really know how much was planned. There will always be the question of "Was there an accomplice or not?". Its probably smarter to know the area you are "Working" in. Maybe he rented the flat for the purpose of killing?
These Women were lured into a false sense of security. They felt secure enough to go into his house. Even after "The Ripper Scare" was on. Theres no doubt Wright used every trick he had to secure his victims trust.

To be fair.. Police think the first two bodies were placed on dry ground. The area had flooded and washed the bodies into the stream. We dont know who placed them there. But they were stripped of all clothing and a blanket may have been used to carry them. Wright had gloves in his car that tested positive for blood and seminal fluid. This stuff indicates planning. He didnt go nuts and kill them in his car and then dumped them to the streets. He cleaned his car many times.

Wright is quick witted. He was able to slip through Police fingers on Dec 1 when he was stopped in the Redlight District. He was able to lie and con his way out of it. Thats what he is. He is also a thief.

This guy Wright is also a Sexual Maniac. He admitted to using the girls even when the heat was on. He conned his Wife/Family/Police/Victims/Public and maybe even a possible accomplice!

This guy Wright is pure dirt. No two ways about it.

Sounds to me like our elusive "Mister Kipper".

Steve Wright did not dispose of annete nicholls or Paula Clenelle... Tom Stephens did !. there IS at the very least an accomplice. I am an eye witness I saw this happen yet the police and every one seems to be ignoring this fact WHY ??????

[Mitch Rowe]

No way, he didn't do Suzi. Wright is opportunistic, not a planner. He took a flat in the red light district, which he was very familiar with, and dumped victims, again, in areas easy to access yet very familiar to him. Suzi was murdered in a pre-planned attack. She was lured into a false sense of security and murdered. It's not Wright's MO at all. Even the early murders of Wright display a lazy attitude to his murders. Dumping the bodies in water was about as clever as he got, and he didn't always do that.

We dont really know how much was planned. There will always be the question of "Was there an accomplice or not?". Its probably smarter to know the area you are "Working" in. Maybe he rented the flat for the purpose of killing?
These Women were lured into a false sense of security. They felt secure enough to go into his house. Even after "The Ripper Scare" was on. Theres no doubt Wright used every trick he had to secure his victims trust.

To be fair.. Police think the first two bodies were placed on dry ground. The area had flooded and washed the bodies into the stream. We dont know who placed them there. But they were stripped of all clothing and a blanket may have been used to carry them. Wright had gloves in his car that tested positive for blood and seminal fluid. This stuff indicates planning. He didnt go nuts and kill them in his car and then dumped them to the streets. He cleaned his car many times.

Wright is quick witted. He was able to slip through Police fingers on Dec 1 when he was stopped in the Redlight District. He was able to lie and con his way out of it. Thats what he is. He is also a thief.

This guy Wright is also a Sexual Maniac. He admitted to using the girls even when the heat was on. He conned his Wife/Family/Police/Victims/Public and maybe even a possible accomplice!

This guy Wright is pure dirt. No two ways about it.

Sounds to me like our elusive "Mister Kipper".

[Jeff Leahy]

No way, he didn't do Suzi. Wright is opportunistic, not a planner. He took a flat in the red light district, which he was very familiar with, and dumped victims, again, in areas easy to access yet very familiar to him. Suzi was murdered in a pre-planned attack. She was lured into a false sense of security and murdered. It's not Wright's MO at all. Even the early murders of Wright display a lazy attitude to his murders. Dumping the bodies in water was about as clever as he got, and he didn't always do that.

Yes its interesting this case...I think Mitch is refering to the fact that Wright worked on the same ship as suzi, bizarrely more at the time you would expect the profile of a serial killer to start.

48 is very old for a serial killer and I would expect that these murderers weren't the first if he was the killer.

(Turned out Sally Anna Bowmans killer Mark Dixie, had stuck before in Australia, but not in the UK, he was only cault by chance..)

Still i except that its a very strange case. I'd think it odd if he appeared that old as a serial killer out of no where.

yours Pirate

[ClarkesYard]

Was anyone surprised by Steve Wright's age at the time of the murders (48)... I remember the FBI profile of Jack the Ripper and thought this was interesting, though, obviously they're very different cases.

[DarkPassenger]

No way, he didn't do Suzi. Wright is opportunistic, not a planner. He took a flat in the red light district, which he was very familiar with, and dumped victims, again, in areas easy to access yet very familiar to him. Suzi was murdered in a pre-planned attack. She was lured into a false sense of security and murdered. It's not Wright's MO at all. Even the early murders of Wright display a lazy attitude to his murders. Dumping the bodies in water was about as clever as he got, and he didn't always do that.

[Mitch Rowe]

I dont know if they will ever charge him for any other Murders. It would be nice though to clear them up. I think they propbably had the right guy charged in Vicki Halls death.
I think Wright is Mr Kipper.

[DarkPassenger]

He'll never admit to it. His ego won't let him.

Serial killers like Wright have a form of superiority complex. They honestly believe that they are smarter than everyone else, and that everyone else is a blithering idiot. When they are caught, they simply re-configure their logic; "well, those stupid bloody cops caught the wrong guy!"

Bundy admitted to it only because he was 48 hours from execution, and because he could get some media attention out of it by scapegoating pornography and taking the role of victim. Watch that interview - all lies and bullshit.

Wright will never admit it - simply stop denying it eventually. Wait 'til he's charged with the other five murders*, then the fun'll kick off.


*Kellie Pratt, Natalie Pearman, Mandy Duncan, Vicki Hall, Michelle Bettles

[Mitch Rowe]

Steve Wright-QE2

Heres something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgjg2RthYa4

[belinda]

When you murder five women your human rights go down the khazi. The law is blind should be a shocking observation instead of a statement of pride.

Absolutely

[DarkPassenger]

When you murder five women your human rights go down the khazi. The law is blind should be a shocking observation instead of a statement of pride.