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[ChrisGeorge]

All of B.W. Beer Works stuff is named after Poe writings... All are also depressingly low ABV and depressingly mediocre. Drinkable but mediocre.

Well I am not saying I would drink it myself.

[Shaggyrand]

All of B.W. Beer Works stuff is named after Poe writings... All are also depressingly low ABV and depressingly mediocre. Drinkable but mediocre.

[ChrisGeorge]

Hi again

Here in Baltimore we have McHenry Beer, inspired by Fort McHenry whose defense against the British Royal Navy on September 13-14, 1814 inspired Francis Scott Key to write "The Star-Spangled Banner" and Raven Lager, named for Edgar Allan Poe's most famous poem.

At RipperCon, I will be giving a talk on the mystery of Poe's final days here in Baltimore, and during the four-hour bus tour on Sunday we will be visiting his grave and house and other sites connected to him. See our website RipperCon.com for complete details about the weekend. Anyone interested should book soon. Space limited!

Best regards

Chris


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Co-organizer, RipperCon
Jack the Ripper Event
Maryland Historical Society
Baltimore, April 8-10, 2016

http://rippercon.com/

Yours truly in the Poe Room at Baltimore's Enoch Pratt Free Library with psychic medium Denise Lescano with a manuscript poem by Poe, along with a lock of his hair and piece of his coffin.

[c.d.]

Hello GUT,

"Pub With No Beer" is one of my favorites. It is on a CD I have of Irish drinking songs.

c.d.

[GUT]

Just so long as anything by Slim Whitman isn't played

Steadmund Brand

How about an Aussie icon. Slim Dusty


Gotta have a beer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxTuUzgxzI

or

Pub with no beer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKPchRDaVM

[Steadmund Brand]

Just so long as anything by Slim Whitman isn't played

Steadmund Brand

[GUT]

Don't feel bad...I'm a New Yorker (state not city) and our state "dance" is the square dance.....seriously...square dancing....in NY!!!.

I remember once I was talking to a Canadian friend of mine about the differences in our countries and attitudes even thought we were so close...( It takes me 15 minutes to get to Canada from where I live) and how even our national anthems show the difference....The Star Spangled Banner is an anthem of war..where Oh Canada is an anthem of peace...I suggested we update our anthems....a good way would be to use our countries folk singer/songwriters....I suggested for America we use Jim Croce's "You don't mess around with Jim" and Canada should use Gordon Lightfoot's "Carefree Highway"..

But as much as I love this conversation, back to the topic....anyone else coming to Baltimore???? I'd really like to meet some of you folks

Steadmund Brand

But if USA adopts "Jim" as their anthem, what happens if they go to war with Slim?

[Steadmund Brand]

Don't feel bad...I'm a New Yorker (state not city) and our state "dance" is the square dance.....seriously...square dancing....in NY!!!.

I remember once I was talking to a Canadian friend of mine about the differences in our countries and attitudes even thought we were so close...( It takes me 15 minutes to get to Canada from where I live) and how even our national anthems show the difference....The Star Spangled Banner is an anthem of war..where Oh Canada is an anthem of peace...I suggested we update our anthems....a good way would be to use our countries folk singer/songwriters....I suggested for America we use Jim Croce's "You don't mess around with Jim" and Canada should use Gordon Lightfoot's "Carefree Highway"..

But as much as I love this conversation, back to the topic....anyone else coming to Baltimore???? I'd really like to meet some of you folks

Steadmund Brand

[Pcdunn]

Connecticut's was "Boolah, Boolah", because it was sung at Yale. Edwin Newman (in his book, "Strickly Speaking" about Americans and the misuse of the English Language) was upset that the words of this cheerful, meaningless tune would be shelved (in the 1960s) for some pompous verses about Connecticut. F

I'm pretty sure that "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You" is their state anthem, but (after all) the old Confederate tune, "The Yellow Rose of Texas" is better known to the public in general. California's again I believe, is "California, Here I Come".

Jeff

I spent some time today looking up state songs at a site called State Symbols USA. I did not see a state song for California, but they do have a type of "state music": Western Swing. (I was born and grew up in California, and never heard of this!)

[Shaggyrand]

Texas is "Texas, Our Texas". There have been attempts to change it to "The Eyes of Texas" but Aggies fans would riot.

[Mayerling]

Connecticut's was "Boolah, Boolah", because it was sung at Yale. Edwin Newman (in his book, "Strickly Speaking" about Americans and the misuse of the English Language) was upset that the words of this cheerful, meaningless tune would be shelved (in the 1960s) for some pompous verses about Connecticut.

I'm pretty sure that "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You" is their state anthem, but (after all) the old Confederate tune, "The Yellow Rose of Texas" is better known to the public in general. California's again I believe, is "California, Here I Come".

Jeff

[Pcdunn]

Still better than Rocky Top.

Which references a woman who is "Half bar (bear, but oh no, it's pronounced bar. Spelled that way too.) other half cat, wild as a minx but sweet a soda pop, I still dream about that"

Just kill me. Really. What a redneck anthem, with no mention of any kind of state pride or positive traits. Except the lack of smog. That rates a mention. In our state song.

Yes, but that's only State Song #5, out of 10 total! Song writers sure like using Tennessee in their lyrics!

[Pcdunn]

Colorado has TWO state songs (cause we're old enough to need them, apparently "Where the Columbines Grow" by A. J. Flynn, adopted 1915, lyrics here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_the_Columbines_Grow

And, of course, "Rocky Mountain High" by John Denver, adopted 2007, lyrics here: http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/symbo...-mountain-high

I like Denver's stuff, so I'm cool with it.

[Errata]

I actually have the complete words to the poem which are the verses that are to be sung to the song (it's like the poem "The Star Spangled Banner", which becomes the words of the late adopted national anthem - to the melody of "To Anacreon in Heaven", an 18th Century British club's drinking song of all things). But then "My Country 'Tis of Thee" uses the British National Anthem "God Save the Queen/King". The verses of "Maryland" refer to many of the victims (i.e., the members of the rioters) who were slain - and few recall them today. It is not like recalling Crispus Attucks, the first African-American to die for freedom in the era of the American Revolution, as being among the five slain at the "Boston Massacre" - these 1861 victims were notable in Baltimore in 1861, and that's it.

I should add that not all the stanzas of the National Anthem are sung, nor of "My Country "Tis of Thee", nor of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" (how many people recall the last stanza referring to Christ: "In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea...."; probably they refrain from singing it due to religious considerations in a country that is supposed to be religiously neutral - unfortunately it destroys one of the best final verses of a U.S. patriotic song ever written).

I have absolutely no idea of the official anthem for New Zealand - I just wonder if the Maoris have a separate one.

Jeff

Still better than Rocky Top.

Which references a woman who is "Half bar (bear, but oh no, it's pronounced bar. Spelled that way too.) other half cat, wild as a minx but sweet a soda pop, I still dream about that"

Just kill me. Really. What a redneck anthem, with no mention of any kind of state pride or positive traits. Except the lack of smog. That rates a mention. In our state song.

[GUT]

New Zealand's is God Defend New Zealand

Normally sung in Maroi and the English.
Like when Aus is about to beat them in Cricket or Rugby League, or Netball even, but probably not in Union.