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  • Elamarna
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    I do hope you don't mind an outsider commenting, but as a Brit , and one who has taken part in politics in the UK and been elected twice at local authority level, I find the American system very sad.

    it seems that ONLY the extremely wealthy can stand for the position of President, that is a real affront to democracy in my opinion.
    It is still possible here in the UK for the Prime minister to come from a humble background.

    I would say that from my understanding the British Prime Minister (of what ever party) actually has more power than the American President.
    The Prime Minister must command a majority of the Members of Parliament, whereas, and if I am wrong please tell me, the President's Party can be in a minority in both Houses.


    And while our system is far from perfect, it is not controlled by religious groups, which to me appears to be at least partly true of the Republicans.

    I would by choice be supporting Sanders but if he was not selected I would with a heavy heart vote for Clinton.

    Please forgive this intrusion from across the water.

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  • Patrick S
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    I've checked out of the electorate. I can't see myself holding my nose and pulling the lever for any of the candidates. I've been a Republican my entire life but, over the past 5 to 10 years my attitudes and the attitudes of Republicans have gone in opposite directions. I'm asked to believe that two guys getting married somehow invalidates or diminishes my marriage. Really? How is that? I have to sit and listen to 'conservative' candidates talk about God and Jesus and the Bible. Meanwhile, I don't believe in God and I find the idea of organized religion repellent. That said, I AM PERSONALLY conservative. Yet, I don't feel like my conservatism should be modeled by everyone else, and that seems to be what Republicans believe these days.

    On the other hand, I have never voted for a Democrat and I can say with 100% certainty that I never will, and Democrats like Hillary Clinton are the reason why. She is a typical 'Do as I Say' politician and I find her participation in the political process disgusting. Full disclosure: I'm a government employee and I'm WELL acquainted with the laws governing not only the protection of classified information but the protection of CPI (confidential/personal information). And if ANYONE other than a select group of elected officials had done what SHE did, they'd be fired, prosecuted and jailed. That's a simple fact the media simply will not state.

    So, until someone invents another party that reflects what I think is important (lower taxes, better education, strong defense, a reasonable safety net that does not discourage participation in the economy, less government regulation, intelligent decriminalization of victimless crimes, reign in the police and get back to 'protect and serve' rather than 'target and humiliate (and occasionally beat, taser, shoot and kill), and discourage political 'service' as a career (i.e. end the rampant corruption in government).

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  • Pcdunn
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    Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
    Hilary declared a victory, although she treated Sanders with respect as an opponent (stressing their unity). Trump comes in second, and treats it like he won (he didn't), and he barely beat Rubio in third place.

    I am hoping something really embarrassing smashes Trump.

    Jeff
    The Canadian Birther controversy concerning Cruz will probably be trotted out again, and I imagine Trump gets nasty when he comes in second. As for "really embarrassing"-- The Donald just has to open his mouth for that to come out!

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  • Mayerling
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    Results from Iowa: for the Republicans: Ted Cruz 28% over Trump, 24% and Rubio at 23% / Huckabee dropped out

    For the Democrats: Hilary Clinton at 50% and Bernie Sanders at 49%. Still not quite called, I think.
    O'Malley dropped out.
    Hilary declared a victory, although she treated Sanders with respect as an opponent (stressing their unity). Trump comes in second, and treats it like he won (he didn't), and he barely beat Rubio in third place.

    I am hoping something really embarrassing smashes Trump.

    Jeff

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  • Pcdunn
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    Results from Iowa: for the Republicans: Ted Cruz 28% over Trump, 24% and Rubio at 23% / Huckabee dropped out

    For the Democrats: Hilary Clinton at 50% and Bernie Sanders at 49%. Still not quite called, I think.
    O'Malley dropped out.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    you have to register with the feds in order to vote. Registering with a party is a separate and largely unnecessary thing. I registered as a democrat when I was 15 (which is weird since you have to be 18 to vote) and got some mail out of it but not much else. I did it because I was volunteering at Planned Parenthood at the time and one day they had the forms lying around the office for some reason. Not a lot of minors register, but some do. More republicans than democrats.
    Thanks Errata, didn't realize minors could register.

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    Thanks Dunny, can you vote in the Presidentials if your not registered?
    you have to register with the feds in order to vote. Registering with a party is a separate and largely unnecessary thing. I registered as a democrat when I was 15 (which is weird since you have to be 18 to vote) and got some mail out of it but not much else. I did it because I was volunteering at Planned Parenthood at the time and one day they had the forms lying around the office for some reason. Not a lot of minors register, but some do. More republicans than democrats.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    Well, if you want to vote in Presidential elections, you pick one of the two major parties (in my case, Democratic), and register with your county voting official, either in person, or by returning a post-card via the mail.
    The Election Clerks compile lists of registered voters for each party.
    In a presidential primary and main election, you may either vote in person at a polling place, or (popular in my State) via mail. In both cases you are required to sign your name. A voter who doesn't vote is a vote uncast, and doesn't count.

    The voters attending Cacuses need to sign up and get training ahead of time, I think (haven't done one of these myself, but someone told me about her experience), and will often come from campaigners for a particular candidate. I think again, someone needs to be there, casting votes, for them to count.

    Thanks Dunny, can you vote in the Presidentials if your not registered?

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Rosella View Post
    I'm afraid it's going to be a narrow Trump victory for the Republicans in Iowa. Sitting watching him and spouse now, with people coming up wanting to take selfies! As far as the Dems are concerned I'm afraid the Benie Sanders' voters might be all talk online and no bothering to vote. To an Aussie it's all a bit circus-like, but I'm a political junkie and find it all interesting.
    I find it intriguing too.

    Once I was a fan of the prospect of businessmen who had been successful going into politics, but not so sure anymore with big Clive and even Mal.

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  • Rosella
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    I'm afraid it's going to be a narrow Trump victory for the Republicans in Iowa. Sitting watching him and spouse now, with people coming up wanting to take selfies! As far as the Dems are concerned I'm afraid the Benie Sanders' voters might be all talk online and no bothering to vote. To an Aussie it's all a bit circus-like, but I'm a political junkie and find it all interesting.

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  • Pcdunn
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    No dumb questions...

    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    'another dumb question, from a dumb Aussie, when you talk about being a registered Dem. who are you registered with? Just the party? And what if anything are the implications of being registered, like does it mean your vote goes to the party even if you don't show up.
    Well, if you want to vote in Presidential elections, you pick one of the two major parties (in my case, Democratic), and register with your county voting official, either in person, or by returning a post-card via the mail.
    The Election Clerks compile lists of registered voters for each party.
    In a presidential primary and main election, you may either vote in person at a polling place, or (popular in my State) via mail. In both cases you are required to sign your name. A voter who doesn't vote is a vote uncast, and doesn't count.

    The voters attending Cacuses need to sign up and get training ahead of time, I think (haven't done one of these myself, but someone told me about her experience), and will often come from campaigners for a particular candidate. I think again, someone needs to be there, casting votes, for them to count.

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  • GUT
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    'another dumb question, from a dumb Aussie, when you talk about being a registered Dem. who are you registered with? Just the party? And what if anything are the implications of being registered, like does it mean your vote goes to the party even if you don't show up.

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  • Pcdunn
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    Registered Republican and Democrat voters (not sure if the smaller parties are included in Cacuses, or only in primaries), and yes, it helps if you're a citizen of the nation and the state, county, district, and precinct.

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    But not everyone can attend a cacus.
    You're not the only one confused, GUT.
    I think ( not living in a caucusing state) that anyone who is a registered party voter can caucus. In other words, you have to be a literal card carrying member of either the Republican or Democratic party (or the also ran parties) to caucus, but if you are, caucus away. I hear it's like a dull mosh pit.

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  • GUT
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    Wow and I thought preferential voting and "Hare Clark" were confusing.
    Last edited by GUT; 02-01-2016, 05:44 PM.

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