Trump charged

[rjpalmer]

Trump's legal troubles continue: The Justice Department is also "looking into" charges against him for the fake electors scheme and the request of Georgia's Elections Supervisor to "find" a "extra" few thousand votes to win the state.

Do you think Trump will be tried as an adult?

[Pcdunn]

Trump's legal troubles continue: The Justice Department is also "looking into" charges against him for the fake electors scheme and the request of Georgia's Elections Supervisor to "find" a "extra" few thousand votes to win the state.

[caz]

One of Trump's cronies recently argued that all those boxes of declassified classified documents were fine where they were, and would have been less secure if kept in a garage, for instance, which could easily be burgled. His logic was that all bathrooms have a lock on the door.

Here in the UK, call us old-fashioned, but the lock is generally on the inside, for the convenience of the one using the - er - convenience.

I now have an image of Trump, sitting permanently on his throne with the door locked, to prevent anyone seeing his paperwork.

Love,

Caz
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[FISHY1118]

Trump got 74 million votes in 2020. Biden's the one who got 81 million votes.

Biden got elected in 2020 based on the low bars of being not Donald Trump and having more charisma than Hillary Clinton.

Biden still has those advantages. He also has the advantage that the Supreme Court threw out Roe versus Wade, which made a lot of people mad at Republicans. And unlike Trump, Biden's been reasonably effective - better Covid response, standing up to Putin, and successful legislation - the American Rescue Plan Act, The CHIPS and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, the Honoring Our Pact Act, and getting the debt ceiling raised.

Trump couldn't even get the money he wanted for a Border Wall when he had Republican majorities in the House and the Senate.



"Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket’s red glare it had nothing but victory." - Donald Trump on the Revolutionary War.

Biden misspeaks at times. He tends to speak slowly and deliberately since he has been fighting a stutter his whole life. But he only looks senile in MAGA-editted videos, not his actual interviews and speeches.

And if you do truly believe Biden is senile, how dumb must Trump be to be repeatedly outwitted by a senile person? If this keeps up, trump will start mistaking Biden for his Dad, who even after he went senile was able to outwit Donald.

Time will tell fiver , time will tell .,I wont get into semantics with you or anyone else for that matter just yet .

[Fiver]

Interesting tho it may seem , if indeed Trump does get the nomination are we likely to see an increase in the voters who voted for him with over 80 million votes For a second time ? If thats the case

Trump got 74 million votes in 2020. Biden's the one who got 81 million votes.

Biden got elected in 2020 based on the low bars of being not Donald Trump and having more charisma than Hillary Clinton.

Biden still has those advantages. He also has the advantage that the Supreme Court threw out Roe versus Wade, which made a lot of people mad at Republicans. And unlike Trump, Biden's been reasonably effective - better Covid response, standing up to Putin, and successful legislation - the American Rescue Plan Act, The CHIPS and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, the Honoring Our Pact Act, and getting the debt ceiling raised.

Trump couldn't even get the money he wanted for a Border Wall when he had Republican majorities in the House and the Senate.

An even bigger question to ponder is whether old joe can muster up more than that to win the presidency ? given the state of his conative decline .

"Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rocket’s red glare it had nothing but victory." - Donald Trump on the Revolutionary War.

Biden misspeaks at times. He tends to speak slowly and deliberately since he has been fighting a stutter his whole life. But he only looks senile in MAGA-editted videos, not his actual interviews and speeches.

And if you do truly believe Biden is senile, how dumb must Trump be to be repeatedly outwitted by a senile person? If this keeps up, trump will start mistaking Biden for his Dad, who even after he went senile was able to outwit Donald.

[FISHY1118]

It's seems that there's a similar issue on the Republican side of the fence too. The Donald had massive support last time out, but post Jan 6th, and the general embarrassment he causes to the party and the nation, he can't rely on pulling those numbers again either. If the next election is a rerun of Biden/Trump, it's America that loses. Two equally poor candidates, one (allegedly) in cognitive decline, the other undoubtedly in cognitive malfunction.

That lack of faith in either of the main candidates opens the door for others who may not have had much chance against quality, respected candidates. Unfortunately, with the changing political climate in the US, that could very well be a far right candidate. The growing support for the far right can't be ignored. Donald's own arrogance keeps him believing that people will flock to him regardless, and that, more than his actions will probably be his downfall.

Fair points, we shall see i guess.

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

I don't think that the Trump voter sees him the same way in which the world sees bidens decline, and I think you know what I mean. .

My point being a Biden voter might just have second thoughts this time around ( not for one second am I saying they would switch to trump ) based on what they have seen over the last 3 years .

Only that they might be reluctant to vote for him this time round .

And I think the democrats are fully aware of this .

But again, time will definitely tell.

It's seems that there's a similar issue on the Republican side of the fence too. The Donald had massive support last time out, but post Jan 6th, and the general embarrassment he causes to the party and the nation, he can't rely on pulling those numbers again either. If the next election is a rerun of Biden/Trump, it's America that loses. Two equally poor candidates, one (allegedly) in cognitive decline, the other undoubtedly in cognitive malfunction.

That lack of faith in either of the main candidates opens the door for others who may not have had much chance against quality, respected candidates. Unfortunately, with the changing political climate in the US, that could very well be a far right candidate. The growing support for the far right can't be ignored. Donald's own arrogance keeps him believing that people will flock to him regardless, and that, more than his actions will probably be his downfall.

[FISHY1118]

I don't think that the Trump voter sees him the same way in which the world sees bidens decline, and I think you know what I mean. .

My point being a Biden voter might just have second thoughts this time around ( not for one second am I saying they would switch to trump ) based on what they have seen over the last 3 years .

Only that they might be reluctant to vote for him this time round .

And I think the democrats are fully aware of this .

But again, time will definitely tell.

[Svensson]

(lack of) cognitive abilities seem to be no issue for Trump voters. why should they make it one for Biden?

[FISHY1118]

Interesting tho it may seem , if indeed Trump does get the nomination are we likely to see an increase in the voters who voted for him with over 80 million votes For a second time ? If thats the case

An even bigger question to ponder is whether old joe can muster up more than that to win the presidency ? given the state of his conative decline .

Time will tell i guess. .

[Svensson]

Congratulations to Hunter Biden, no prison time. And people still try to argue the Feds aren't corrupt. I'd be against a long prison term had this been prosecuted under a Republican President. His father as President and it looks very suspicious indeed. I wonder whether Don Jnr would have got off so lightly under a Biden Presidency? I suspect not.

Fortunately, you have your answer. In 2022, Roger Stone was allowed to settle his $2 million lawsuit by the DOJ by paying the outstanding debt in exchange for no prison time.

https://www.floridabulldog.org/2022/07/roger-stone-wife-agree-pay-2-1-million-settle-tax-case-where-will-money-come-from/

[Fiver]

Edit; with a bit of luck he may yet bring down a US intel agency. I'm not saying this will happen but at least it's on the table.

Trump has certainly tried to destroy US intelligence by stealing classified documents and using worse security than your average garden shed. Trump's damage to US intelligence is a great thing if you're a Russia or North Korea autocrat; but a terrible thing for everyone else.

[Fiver]

...gutted the Republican Party and is currently wearing it's pelt as a second skin...

So why do you consider Trump removing the Republican Party's brain, heart, spine, guts, and gonads to be a good thing?

And like most bullies, Trump is a coward, as he showed by his fawning behavior around Putin and Kim.

[Fiver]

...became President without previously having run for public office...

Donald Trump 2000 presidential campaign

In 2016, Trump got 2.8 million less votes than Hillary Clinton, the worse margin of any President who won the Electoral College but not the popular vote.

[Fiver]

Trump is the man who helped build a multi-billion dollar real estate empire..]

Frederick Trump built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire based on good business skills, war profiteering, tax evasion, and buying off politicians.

Donald Trump became the figurehead president of the Trump Organization in 1971, but his father Fred was the one really running things and creating the myth of Donald being good at running businesses. Donald Trump repeatedly went broke in the casino business, where people are literally handing you their money. When Donald tried to trick his father Fred into leaving everything to Donald, Fred saw right through it, even though Fred was senile by that time. Tax records show that between 1985 and 1995 Donald lost over $2 billion dollars. Donald owes over $1.3 billion dollars to his creditors.

For contrast, Oprah Winfrey was born to a teenage single mom who got by on government assistance, but Oprah's estimated wealth is $2.5 billion, just like Donald Trump.