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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    At the time of Ptolemy, of course, Brittany didn't yet exist.
    They should have just stayed with Albion and saved all the confusion. : )

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    "The Greco-Egyptian scientist Ptolemy referred to the larger island as great Britain (μεγάλη Βρεττανία megale Brettania) and to Ireland as little Britain (μικρὰ Βρεττανία mikra Brettania) in his work Almagest (147–148 AD)."
    At the time of Ptolemy, of course, Brittany didn't yet exist.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Hi sam
    I thought it was the other way round. People started to refer to Brittany as lesser or little or minor Britain to differentiate it from Great Britain?
    I'm pretty sure that the Kingdom of Brittany had first claim on the name "Bretagne", given that in reality the "Kingdom of England" was in operation over here at the time. If it had been the other way around, England/Scotland/Wales would have been "Britain" (no need for the "Great") and Brittany would have been officially called "Petite Bretagne", which it never was.

    We're talking about the 15th Century, by the way, when the French language and culture were still influential at the English court, and relations with the various French duchies and kingdoms were politically important. I doubt that the francophone English politicians would have been so insensitive as to dub the Kingdom of Brittany as "Little Britain", especially given that the latter had existed for many centuries, and that the word "Britain" hadn't been used to describe England/Scotland/Wales as an official entity since the time of the Romans. Indeed, the true (United) Kingdom of Great Britain wouldn't arrive until the 18th Century, so there was quite a while to wait on that score.
    Last edited by Sam Flynn; 01-06-2018, 12:50 PM.

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    "The Greco-Egyptian scientist Ptolemy referred to the larger island as great Britain (μεγάλη Βρεττανία megale Brettania) and to Ireland as little Britain (μικρὰ Βρεττανία mikra Brettania) in his work Almagest (147–148 AD)."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
    What happened in 1707 was that two kingdoms - England/Wales and Scotland - combined to become the single kingdom of 'Great Britain' i.e. covering the whole of the larger of the two main islands comprising the British Isles. It was a political change not a geographical one.

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  • Robert
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    "The Greco-Egyptian scientist Ptolemy referred to the larger island as great Britain (μεγάλη Βρεττανία megale Brettania) and to Ireland as little Britain (μικρὰ Βρεττανία mikra Brettania) in his work Almagest (147–148 AD)."

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    The term "Great Britain" dates back to mediaeval times, to distinguish the island of Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) from the Kingdom of Brittany in France: "Grande Bretagne" vs "Bretagne".
    Hi sam
    I thought it was the other way round. People started to refer to Brittany as lesser or little or minor Britain to differentiate it from Great Britain?

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  • Abby Normal
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    Romans called it Britannia which I believe was a form of the earlier Greek word for it.

    Kingdom of Great Britain came from when England (and wales) and Scotland United.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    The term "Great Britain" dates back to mediaeval times, to distinguish the island of Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) from the Kingdom of Brittany in France: "Grande Bretagne" vs "Bretagne".

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by C. F. Leon View Post
    I know, old thread, but reading this I had to ask-

    When did the term "GREAT Britain" come into usage? Is the adjective in reference to the British Isles in general, or was there a "Lesser Britain" at some point that has "sunk beneath the waves"? (I'm being metaphorical here.) Maybe Ireland in a more chilly political climate (17th Century?)?

    - CFL
    Reaching back to my history days it went something like this.

    England.
    England and Scotland = Britain
    Britain and Wales = Great Britain
    Great Britain and Northern Ireland = United Kingdom.

    (I may and Wales and Scotland the wrong way around)

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  • C. F. Leon
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    I know, old thread, but reading this I had to ask-

    When did the term "GREAT Britain" come into usage? Is the adjective in reference to the British Isles in general, or was there a "Lesser Britain" at some point that has "sunk beneath the waves"? (I'm being metaphorical here.) Maybe Ireland in a more chilly political climate (17th Century?)?

    - CFL

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  • Magpie
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    My sister got to meet the happy grandparents, Chuck and Milla, yesterday.

    She said they were both very charming

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  • RivkahChaya
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Of course we can. It's just south of Fukyoudooshbag!
    Abby meant southeast, albeit, southeast is simply the shortest route, and it would be from our perspective. You would travel southwest. I can give you the exact coordinates, if you so desire. Also, the next flight from Heathrow to JFK.

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  • Graham
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Of course we can. It's just south of Fukyoudooshbag!
    That's no way to speak of Canada.

    G

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Graham View Post
    Let's face it, most Americans couldn't find America on a map.

    G
    Of course we can. It's just south of Fukyoudooshbag!
    Last edited by Abby Normal; 07-25-2013, 12:04 AM.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Congrats England!
    On your new Prince George!

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