The Americans gave the world Oliver Hardy. That makes up even for basketball.
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We can both take credit for English becoming the world's default language - you because of the British Empire and us because of our super power status in military, economics, science and technology.This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.
Stan Reid
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Originally posted by Ally View PostAmericans gave the world computers. Game over. We win.The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Originally posted by Errata View PostActually the computer was invented by a Brit. But we gave the world the radio, the light bulb, baseball, basketball, pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs, whiskey, pink lemonade, and two out of the three English words recognized in every country in the world. Elvis and Coca Cola. Jesus did his own press junket.
That leaves you with Baseball, light bulbs, Pink Lemonade Hot Dogs, Elvis, Coca Cola and some other word I'm not going to mention, for which you surely allow myself to congratulate you from the bottom of my heart.Last edited by bolo; 07-05-2013, 03:35 PM.~ All perils, specially malignant, are recurrent - Thomas De Quincey ~
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That leaves you with Baseball, light bulbs, Pink Lemonade Hot Dogs, Elvis, Coca Cola
All the best
Dave
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Originally posted by Ally View PostAmericans gave the world computers. Game over. We win.
GWe are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze
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Originally posted by Cogidubnus View PostWell actually Joseph Swan patented the light bulb before Edison got there, and baseball was derived from 18th century British rounders games imported by immigrants...which leaves the US as the home of Pink Lemonade, Hot Dogs, Elvis and Coca Cola...Thanks guys...so much
All the best
Dave
GWe are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze
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We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze
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Originally posted by Cogidubnus View PostYes, but we kept on repaying the "charity" until as late as 2006 I believe...The discount rates and terms were admittedly generous but no wonder the country was broke for so long...the costs of maintaining resistance to the Nazis virtually solo from 1939 to 1941 were especially crippling...
Still it's not anywhere near as scandalous as the reparations we were forced to pay the French after WW1 for the use of their railways to tranship our troops and materiel to save their miserable hides!
All the best
Dave
And, we were purely in it for self-promotion.
WW1 - the perceived wisdom was that we just couldn't have the Germans in control of North West France and as a result tamper with our trade routes.
WW2 - another attempt to keep the empire going and the idea of honour played a part.
No use in crying over spilt milk or blaming anyone else when you take your chances and it doesn't work out.
It was over anyway. We're a small country off the North West coast of Europe. It was never going to last. I think it is a credit to England (assuming you like empire and that kind of thing) that we managed to achieve what we did and leave a lasting legacy on the world.
The world would be a very different place had the English idea of commerce and liberal democracy not triumphed over ideas from other countries.
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Hi FM
No I agree that the US is not a charity ...what I resent though is that ever since 1945 Lease-Lend has been represented as if Britain WAS a charity case and the USA DID offer charity alone...That's bullshit...Whilst the president was sympathetic (despite Kennedy) it was a business decision alone.
The point I was trying to make was that it was never a charitable donation - the US gained considerable immediate territorial advantages, and for 60 years after the war ended not only claimed repayment of the capital but interest too. Which is an interesting contrast to the way the US treated it's nominal enemies...Japan and Germany certainly weren't saddled with this incredible debt, and certainly weren't handicapped until 2006.
So now let's talk about Marshall Aid...In the winter of 1945 hundreds of thousands of Britsh citizens literally died because it was a really bad winter and there was no food. The UK had been denied aid...so tell me please Mac why the US flew food into Germany, Italy, France and damned nearly everywhere else and left their allies to die?
Don't get me wrong...I'm not anti - American...far from it, (the opposite in fact), but I would prefer to accept the realities of politics as they are, and hence the facts, and deal with reality rather than fantasy
All the best
Dave
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