Did Lee Harvey Oswald Kill Officer J D Tippit?

[Beowulf]

Then why did Ruby shoot Oswald ?

I'm no expert on this but the theory for that is Ruby was mobbed up and that Oswald was just a patsy. Conspiracy theorists suggest that Ruby shot Oswald so that he wouldn't talk and expose a conspiracy to kill the president.

However Ruby claimed he did it to spare Jacqueline Kennedy a trip to testify in the murder trial. But later he said that there was no reasoning behind the killing, and it was just a spur of the moment thing.

[Jonathan H]

On the one hand, you're right that a person's manner is not hard evidence of anything.

On the other hand everything I have ever read by olice and been told by police is that --in general -- the guilty are cool,a nd collected and often legalistic (my rihgts etc.) wheras the innocent are nervy, and can even unravel at even being suspected by police, or even just being inside a police station.

The reason I say that he is a terrible liar is because he is lying at that press conference, trying to give the impression of a persecuted leftist who had no idea he was being suspected in the JFK Assassination until the pressmen asked him a question about it.

[Errata]

Check out Oswald when he appears before the press. He's a cool customer, for sure, but a terrible liar.

'Did you assassination the President?"

'No, I have not been charged with that, in fact the first time ...'

Consider that you are entirely innocent of murdering President John F. Kennedy. How would you react, and what would you say before the world's media?

Would you be legalistically defensive, or would you be screaming your phucking head off that the most monstrous calmuny had befallen your blameless self!?

Now I have an uncle who was working at Parkland, and he says that when Oswald came in and was autopsied that he was pretty severely concussed at the time of his death. He thought it came from the regular treatment a cop killer receives, but it's entirely possible it happened at the theater. So I'm not bringing it up out of some sort of proof for or against guilt, but it would mean that judging his guilt or innocence based on his affect would be inappropriate.

Actually my uncle was there when Kennedy came in, when Oswald came in, and treated Jack Ruby right before he died. There used to be a club of sorts of Parkland doctors and nurses who were there at all three deaths. Evidently they used to do dinner once a year or something.

[Jonathan H]

To Observer

You're very kind, but I have forgotten more than I remember on this subject.

One of the reasons being that Oswald brutally killing Tippit is such an open and shut case, and he nearly managed to kill other cops in the movie house.

Check out Oswald when he appears before the press. He's a cool customer, for sure, but a terrible liar.

'Did you assassination the President?"

'No, I have not been charged with that, in fact the first time ...'

Consider that you are entirely innocent of murdering President John F. Kennedy. How would you react, and what would you say before the world's media?

Would you be legalistically defensive, or would you be screaming your phucking head off that the most monstrous calmuny had befallen your blameless self!?

Somebody else wrote that a body-guard shot JFK, a myth about Huey Long moved up to 1963 and across to Dallas -- but anything to get Oswald off the hook.

Somebody else wrote that Oswald was troubled but not a killer, obviously unfamiliar with his reume of violent behaviour: his attempt to kill himself in Russia, he regularly beat Marina, and he tried to assassinate General Edwin Walker with the same rifle while the latter was sitting in his window, at night, doing his taxes (the wooden latice of the window, obscure even to a telescopic site, saved him).

Observer, I'm at work and will have to recheck my Gerald Posner ('Case Closed') sitting on the shelf behind me.

Of course, to a Conspiracy Buff the fact that I regard Posner as an authority on this subject (though I do not agree with him about Silvia Odio's worth, or lack of as a witness) immediately exposes me as a card-carrying member of the Real Control Apparatus, or the Masons, or, my favourite, the Invisible Nazi Substructure -- and, make no mistake, we are legion.

[Observer]

Hi Jason thanks for that. It appears that the bullets recovered from officer Tippit's body were too damaged to provide a link with the gun found on Oswald at his arrest.

Regards

Observer

[jason_c]

Here's what I've found regarding the bullets in the Tippit murder.

"They[the bullets] were consistent with Oswald's revolver, but because the revolver had been converted from a .38 into a .38 Special, no bullet fired from it could be positively matched to it."

More here. As a ballistics novice its all gobbledegook to me.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/firearms_hsca.htm#199

[Observer]

To Johnathon H, who is obviously well read on the subject of the Kennedy assassination. Was the gun found on Oswald after his arrest in the cinema, checked by ballistics as a possible weapon used in the murder of officer Tippit?

regards

Observer

[sdreid]

I think Oswald killed both and that there was no major conspiracy. My feeling is that at least one other person probably at least knew Oswald was going to do it and possibly played a minor role - so probably a small conspiracy. I doubt it was Ruby but who knows.

[lynn cates]

arrears

Hello David. OK, but can he sit down? (heh-heh)

I daresay he is in arrears. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

JFK lives on, Lynn

[lynn cates]

Blow it out your . . .

Hello Tel.

"I am convinced that JFK was struck by a bullet from an AR15, accidentally fired from his rear."

I wonder, did JFK REALLY fire a lot of bullets from his rear? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Then why did Ruby shoot Oswald ? (some aircraft deal gone wild ?)

[Bridewell]

Accident?

I am convinced that JFK was struck by a bullet from an AR15, accidentally fired from his rear.

JFK = Accidental Death? It's certainly original!

Was the gun accidentally pointed at him, or just accidentally fired?

Regards, Bridewell.

[Cogidubnus]

For god's sake don't anybody mention the Grassy Knoll...oops...shhhh!

Dave

[Tel]

More to the point, did Oswald kill anyone at all? I am convinced that JFK was struck by a bullet from an AR15, accidentally fired from his rear.

Oswald was certainly a twisted and confused individual, but a killer?