Rioting in UK capital

[Chris]

No. I suggested you do your own homework re BBC journalists referring to it as a protest.

As a matter of fact, you initially offered to name the BBC journalists you claimed had "pontificat[ed] about how it's not their fault," but when asked for details you came out with the rubbish about "doing your own homework."

It's the easiest thing in the world to make up a lie on an Internet discussion board and then, when asked to back it up, to say "do your own homework." The unusual thing in this case was that the lie was so stupid and implausible that it was self evidently untrue. If a BBC journalist had really said such a thing, his photo would be adorning pub dartboards throughout the land ...

[Robert]

Pakistanis are Moslems but are not white. They are, however, Caucasian, as are Indians.

What is a race? Are the Celts a race? And if so, is it racial discrimination for a Welsh employer to turn down an Irish job applicant in favour of a Welsh one? One would think it impossible. Similarly, if Anglo-Saxons are a race then a British Anglo-Saxon cannot racially discriminate against a German in favour of a British A-S - it isn't logically possible.

On the other hand, if you only have Causasians, Negroes and Mongoloids, then a white British employer cannot racially discriminate against an Indian in favour of a white Briton, because it isn't logically possible.

"Race" is a more or less useless word.

[harry]

Chris,
You are what you want to be.I am white Anglo Saxen.I prefer to live among people of my own kind.This interpretation of colour,is not mine,it was given by the British government in regard to the people of Jamaica,who were at the time ,all British citizens.It is still used today.

Natalie,
I am white Caucasion.

Caz,
Too many people are afraid to state their attitudes publicly,but are quite prepared secretly to follow the lead of persons like Enoch Powell.

I served for a time in Jamaica,in the 1940's.I saw racial discrimination aplenty.I saw class distinction too.A good friend,a black Jamaican of my own age(21),yes I could make friends with them,once said to me,"As much as we are friends,if you get into a fight with a black Jamaican,and I am present,I will take his side regardless of who is in the right".I saw nothing wrong with that.

[Fleetwood Mac]

You mean that when I pointed out that you'd lied about what BBC journalists had said, you couldn't think of anything to say in reply?

No. I suggested you do your own homework re BBC journalists referring to it as a protest.

The reason our conversation ended is that you didn't reply to any of my questions and pulled the usual PC liberal card: "RACIST!"

To be frank, I didn't expect anything to the contrary.

As a political group, you're like robots capable only of one school of thought - usually nothing is fair; always it's some grand theory with no basis in reality.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Actually that is incorrect. Europeans, North Asians and Middle Easterners are Caucasian. So Saudi's are Caucasian, Turks are, Kazakhs, Egyptians, all white. The non white Muslims are the black Africans, making the non white Muslim population 50% at most.

Ha! Gotta love this post as it says so much about the current trend in denying difference to the point of making up any old ****. Not the Caucasian bit of course; I'm fully aware of this racial classification.

[caz]

How do you spot a racist? It's fairly easy because first they will label themselves a racist then they will swear black is white that they are not a racist when anyone notices them doing it.

It's ironic that they can't tell black from white when it comes to their own thinking, but are obsessed and eaten up by the difference when it comes to human skin pigmentation.

My cat and the growing fox cubs in our back garden have less trouble rubbing along together.

Love,

Caz
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[Natalie Severn]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.These riots were just another skirmish in a long running racial war that goes back in origin,in Britain, to just after the second world war had ended.Before that,to the colonies.There will be more.

We in Britain will have lots of different races in our blood.How do you know Harry that you don't have all three in your racial history? We were invaded umpteen times over two thousand years and among working class people in particular there was a lot of intermarriage!

[Chris]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.

I'm sort of pinkish myself. Presumably that means I should be on the side of the "coloureds" in your racial war.

[harry]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.These riots were just another skirmish in a long running racial war that goes back in origin,in Britain, to just after the second world war had ended.Before that,to the colonies.There will be more.

[Errata]

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

Actually that is incorrect. Europeans, North Asians and Middle Easterners are Caucasian. So Saudi's are Caucasian, Turks are, Kazakhs, Egyptians, all white. The non white Muslims are the black Africans, making the non white Muslim population 50% at most.

[Chris]

... and our conversation ended a while back.

You mean that when I pointed out that you'd lied about what BBC journalists had said, you couldn't think of anything to say in reply?

[Fleetwood Mac]

Given that you claim not to be a racist, it's very difficult to work out why you keep trying to drag the discussion back to the subject of race!

Chris, whether or not you think I'm a racist is of no consequence to me, and our conversation ended a while back.

[Chris]

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

Given that you claim not to be a racist, it's very difficult to work out why you keep trying to drag the discussion back to the subject of race!

[Fleetwood Mac]

Are you aware that many "whites" are Muslim?

To be a Muslim is to be a follower of Islam.

It's a religious faith and has nothing to do with skin color.

Archaic

No, only someone holding your god ordained insight could possibly be aware of a such a thing. Now that you're here leading the world into the coming enlightenment, I'll propose something that may support your awareness sessions (out of curiosity, have you risen to a senior position in your chosen field?) and as such you may wish to take it on board: christians v muslims doesn't really work in England as christianity doesn't have the following it did once upon a time, so when making a distinction you're left with 'whites'; and as approximately 0.01% of muslims in this country are white, do we, or should I say you, really need to be pendantic about this? Enlightenment thinkers tended to look toward grand ideals (please do bear that in mind in the event you continue to peddle awareness).

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

P.P.S Have you thought about getting on the road and taking your worldly wisdom, well, I would call it worldly but that would do you a disservice as your wisdom clearly transcends earthly barriers, around the world. Do get a second in command, though, as there can't be much more room in your head to store wisdom.

[Robert]

When skis are stolen, it's a sure sign an area is going downhill.