Rioting in UK capital

[jason_c]

The politics thing may be more of an American phenomenon than a British one. Certainly there were quite a few people who attributed George Bush's failure to win re-election to the LA riots.

And political or establishment targeting almost never lasts more than 24 hours, though I was under the impression that London police officers were attacked a couple days running. It's like we just don't have the focus and commitment for a reign of terror anymore. We devote maybe a night to political or social upheaval, and the next three days perfecting the five finger discount. There was an interview I watched in sociology class of someone from the LA riots, and he said for about 12 hours after the verdict, he felt sort of a righteous hatred for law enforcement, and as it started to fade he got scared of cops again, and turned towards less targeted more anonymous destruction to vent. I wouldn't think that's uncommon.

My teacher said that the way you know that looting isn't always about acquisition was that a ski supply store was completely emptied. If you live in South Central LA, you don't ski. A: it's not a super popular sport amongst American blacks and b: it's an expensive hobby. Even the shelves in that place were taken, and probably saw a lot more use than the skis ever did. I mean, electronics and liquor are very popular with looters, but then there's the occasional plumbing supply store that get emptied to sort of make you wonder about the real motivation of it all.

I can't say rioting looks fun. But then again, I'm not big on crowds and I hate being pushed around. If I could riot in a giant hamster ball to preserve my personal space, I might be more open to it.

The emboldened part will likely be 100% wrong. The only way the riots would affect Bush snr would be any lack of his administrations law & order reply against the rioters.

You realise ski's can be sold? In L.A. I doubt it would be difficult to sell them on to someone.


I apologize as i may be coming across as a troll. Im typing with an on screen keyboard so my posts are fairly brief.

[brummie]

So David Cameron thinks it about time he fixed our 'broken society',well theres been a lot said on this thread about taking personal resposibility but I don't suppose Cameron and his chancellor will come anywhere near taking their share of responaibility for the governments sustained assault on the working classes.
Cameron when he came to office (with a minority of voters) stated he would be about reducing the deficit but "we're all in it together" ,surely the most assinine sound bite for decades.The reality is that it is the lower members of society who have to carry the biggest burden as usual.While people are losing their homes and jobs Camerons idea of being in it together is probably to put the butler on a 3 day week or get a slightly smaller Daimler.
It is somewhat obnoxious when the government spends all its time cutting jobs then in pandering to the tabloid mentality by branding anyone without a job as a workshy scrounger and cuuting their benefits.If you want to mend "broken Britain" Cameron you might want to start looking close to home.If you leave people with no money,no job and no hope why would they want to be part of your society?

[caz]

http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-uploads/ninjabeg.jpg

I'd give this guy money.

I'd give him apostrophe lessons so he could educate himself out of poverty and pay for the kung fu lessons himself.

Interesting how the London rioters had their ripple effect round the country, before boredom set in again, plus rain in Manchester (who would have guessed?) and the flooding with extra coppers stopped play - but the talking about it goes on, and on.

And there's a different opinion on cause, effect, punishment and future prevention for every one of the silly (as in simple) sheep who joined in.

Love,

Caz
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[jason_c]

I'd give him apostrophe lessons so he could educate himself out of poverty and pay for the kung fu lessons himself.

Interesting how the London rioters had their ripple effect round the country, before boredom set in again, plus rain in Manchester (who would have guessed?) and the flooding with extra coppers stopped play - but the talking about it goes on, and on.

And there's a different opinion on cause, effect, punishment and future prevention for every one of the silly (as in simple) sheep who joined in.

Love,

Caz
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I was literally throwing stuff at Ed Miliband on tv earlier.

[Errata]

The emboldened part will likely be 100% wrong. The only way the riots would affect Bush snr would be any lack of his administrations law & order reply against the rioters.
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Well it wasn't so much a lack of a response, as much as there was disagreement about the response. Some people thought the national guard should not have been activated. Some people thought it should have been activated sooner. Some thought they should have been on alert the moment the jury came to a decision. Some thought the national guard should have been activated, but not bring in the Army and the Marines. Some people thought the cops should not have been pulled out of the area. Quite a few people thought he should have shown some sympathy for the social problems that created the powder keg.

And a good deal of this was not his fault or even his decision. But it was an election year, and that's a bad time to find yourself in a no-win situation. And our elections are more direct than England's, so Presidents often find their elections based on some of the strangest things. We had a really strong Democratic candidate get tanked because of a weird sounding scream of excitement he gave at a rally. So it's less about Bush's failure, and more about his perceived failure.

[Robert]

When skis are stolen, it's a sure sign an area is going downhill.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Are you aware that many "whites" are Muslim?

To be a Muslim is to be a follower of Islam.

It's a religious faith and has nothing to do with skin color.

Archaic

No, only someone holding your god ordained insight could possibly be aware of a such a thing. Now that you're here leading the world into the coming enlightenment, I'll propose something that may support your awareness sessions (out of curiosity, have you risen to a senior position in your chosen field?) and as such you may wish to take it on board: christians v muslims doesn't really work in England as christianity doesn't have the following it did once upon a time, so when making a distinction you're left with 'whites'; and as approximately 0.01% of muslims in this country are white, do we, or should I say you, really need to be pendantic about this? Enlightenment thinkers tended to look toward grand ideals (please do bear that in mind in the event you continue to peddle awareness).

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

P.P.S Have you thought about getting on the road and taking your worldly wisdom, well, I would call it worldly but that would do you a disservice as your wisdom clearly transcends earthly barriers, around the world. Do get a second in command, though, as there can't be much more room in your head to store wisdom.

[Chris]

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

Given that you claim not to be a racist, it's very difficult to work out why you keep trying to drag the discussion back to the subject of race!

[Fleetwood Mac]

Given that you claim not to be a racist, it's very difficult to work out why you keep trying to drag the discussion back to the subject of race!

Chris, whether or not you think I'm a racist is of no consequence to me, and our conversation ended a while back.

[Chris]

... and our conversation ended a while back.

You mean that when I pointed out that you'd lied about what BBC journalists had said, you couldn't think of anything to say in reply?

[Errata]

P.S. Assuming we agree that the vast majority of muslims are non white, then do we agree that Islam is linked to skin colour?

Actually that is incorrect. Europeans, North Asians and Middle Easterners are Caucasian. So Saudi's are Caucasian, Turks are, Kazakhs, Egyptians, all white. The non white Muslims are the black Africans, making the non white Muslim population 50% at most.

[harry]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.These riots were just another skirmish in a long running racial war that goes back in origin,in Britain, to just after the second world war had ended.Before that,to the colonies.There will be more.

[Chris]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.

I'm sort of pinkish myself. Presumably that means I should be on the side of the "coloureds" in your racial war.

[Natalie Severn]

There are three kinds of British citizens.White,Black and coloured.These riots were just another skirmish in a long running racial war that goes back in origin,in Britain, to just after the second world war had ended.Before that,to the colonies.There will be more.

We in Britain will have lots of different races in our blood.How do you know Harry that you don't have all three in your racial history? We were invaded umpteen times over two thousand years and among working class people in particular there was a lot of intermarriage!

[caz]

How do you spot a racist? It's fairly easy because first they will label themselves a racist then they will swear black is white that they are not a racist when anyone notices them doing it.

It's ironic that they can't tell black from white when it comes to their own thinking, but are obsessed and eaten up by the difference when it comes to human skin pigmentation.

My cat and the growing fox cubs in our back garden have less trouble rubbing along together.

Love,

Caz
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