Jilted Ex-Boyfriend Puts Up Abortion Billboard

[babybird67]

An angry man who is hurting.

I have no doubt that many women have lost their lives due to potential fathers reacting badly to an abortion.

I admire his original and non-violent revenge.

1, how do you know it was an abortion?

2, if it was an abortion, why are you assuming that it wasn't for medical reasons and that the mother did not feel as much hurt and distress as the father is feeling.

3, why do you think it is any person's right to publicise someone else's personal intimate experiences to the world, whatever the truth behind the matter?

WHat really annoys me is the territorial macho rubbish of the jilted man who seems to assume he holds some kind of right over his ex girlfriend's body. Newsflash. He doesn't. He doesn't KNOW what happened to her. He is assuming, like everyone else here, putting his own spin on things, and the gullible, or perhaps the willingly blind, are just swallowing what he says as true and using that to justify the unjustifiable.

Astounding!

[babybird67]

Errata

I completely agree with your eloquent posts.

If any harm comes to this woman as a consequence of what this man has exposed her to, then he shoiuld be charged with a crime and imprisoned.

Nobody is saying this man doesn't have a right to feel upset, IF what he says is true. And who knows if it is? We only have his word for it. The woman involved claims she has a miscarriage. IT IS HER BODY AND SHE SHOULD KNOW. WHatever he believes happened is irrelevant. Just as she has no right to put billboards up labelling him for things he may or may not have done in their relationship, so he has no right to do the same to her.

The way his claims are being treated as true, without any proof, by some posters here, is disgraceful. Do you believe everything you read in print? LOL!

[DirectorDave]

An angry man who is hurting.

I have no doubt that many women have lost their lives due to potential fathers reacting badly to an abortion.

I admire his original and non-violent revenge.

[Errata]

What is the correlation between the events that happened to you (sorry they happened by the way) and what this man is doing? Sorry, but I don't see the moral equivalency. And why is it always this guys fault? Like if something happens to his ex ,its automatically his fault again. I don't know whats more disturbing about this that shes more distressed about a billboard than aborting her own child or that she can abort her child and then sue someone about it. Probably the former, so I like what this guy is doing I guess we can just agree to disagree
Jordan

Okay. Clearly I am not making myself understood. Let me try it this way.

There are crazy people out there on this issue. Violent crazy people. Like the ones who targeted me. And this is well known. When he put up the billboard about her, he made her a potential target of these people. That may not have been his intent, but he did. And if her real name can be found in a matter of minutes on google, then it does not matter that he did not name her explicitly. And however pissed he may be at her, and however rightfully so, there are reasons that there are such stringent privacy protections for women who get abortions. Because there are people out there more than willing to kill them for having done so. They are also willing to kill people who give abortions, people who assist, people who file documents, people who come in to get birth control, STD testing, yearly exams. They honestly believe that they should kill them all and let god sort them out.

I understand you sympathize with this man. Believe it or not, I do too. While I am absolutely pro-choice, I do believe that barring physical threat, men should have input into reproductive decisions. So I understand that he may be in a lot of pain. But his choice in revenge could put her in danger with the crazy people out there. If he wants to be pissed at her, I fully support him. If he wants to throw himself into anti-abortion protests and politics, I fully support him. If he is interested in something good coming from all this, god bless him in his efforts. This billboard won't heal him. It won't change things. And if a lunatic googles her and hurts her, which is not outside the realm of possibility, then he has some responsibility in that. Were I him, I would want to avoid that possibility.

[ChainzCooper]

What is the correlation between the events that happened to you (sorry they happened by the way) and what this man is doing? Sorry, but I don't see the moral equivalency. And why is it always this guys fault? Like if something happens to his ex ,its automatically his fault again. I don't know whats more disturbing about this that shes more distressed about a billboard than aborting her own child or that she can abort her child and then sue someone about it. Probably the former, so I like what this guy is doing I guess we can just agree to disagree
Jordan

[Errata]

This isn't complex at all. If she aborted the baby and he has no say in it don't you think he has the right to feel angry? I know I would be. Not all fathers are bad hate to break it to you. He doesn't love her anymore if the story he says is true then shes in the wrong,not him. This isn't really that hard to understand. If he gets creative in getting back at her (at a such small scale considering all hes lost forever) then I say bravo to you, sir. And wow equating shooting someone with a billboard yeah that is really comparable
Jordan

I don't think all fathers are bad. I don't even think most are. But you don't know this man, nor the situation, and you cannot assume he is righteous. I do not assume he is scum, I merely recognize the possibility. I know that she did not feel she could tell him that she was pregnant, and that is never a sign of any kind of healthy relationship.

Perhaps you are unaware of the lengths that people go to in this particular debate. Let me inform you.

When I was nine years old, at my softball game, a woman handed me a box and told me to give it to my Dad for her. Which I did. It contained a small deactivated bomb. With a note that said "You won't be so smug when WE kill YOUR baby". My father was an OB/GYN at a local hospital. And they followed him, identified me as his daughter and targeted me. Not him, me. Then, when I was 19 and working as a file clerk at a local Planned Parenthood I came home to find a man in my bedroom, pinning a cloth doll to my wall with a hunting knife. He told me that I had been warned, and left. And I had to quit a job I really believed in because they were making sure teenagers could avoid getting pregnant, because some psycho knew where I lived. And I had to move. Now I have been exposed to this for my whole life. And I am a willing participant in this fight. I chose this.

Someone here found this man's ex through google in like, a minute. Do you think for a second that the kind of people who are willing to threaten a nine year old girl based on her father's job would hesitate to do something to a woman they honestly believe had an abortion? Did you think these people don't exist? That's why you do not EVER expose someone to that kind of threat. NOT EVER!

You think this is "creative revenge". Will you still think so if she is found dead with a bullet in her skull? Will you still applaud?

[ChainzCooper]

If he's telling the truth? So what if he is? Is it his business whether or not his ex-girlfriend aborted his child? Absolutely. Is it anyone elses? Absolutely not. You assume he is standing up because he wanted to be a father. You don't know why she left him. If he was beating the crap out of her, does he still get to be a father? Does he only want a perfect child to pass on the family name to, and like most unmarried fathers, is going to absolutely bail on a child with any developmental or physical handicaps? Does he even care about the child at all, given that he only seemed to care AFTER she dumped him?

Or is it possible, that like most women who miscarry, she had to have a D&C to clear out the leftover placenta and uterine lining so she didn't die of septic shock? Or maybe, despite the absolute innocence of the completely physically and chemically dependent fetus developing inside her, she chose not to be a mother, and certainly was not going to be a mother with such a complete ass, and chose to end her pregnancy in a way absolutely protected by law and medical science.

You may see it as murder. And that is your inalienable right. It is a an extremely limited and judgmental view that absolutely guarantees you will remain in ignorance of the complexities of such issues, rendering you unlikely to ever give an informed opinion, but that's okay. It's not like I don't understand. It is a terrifying position to be in, as a male in this country with no definable rights with an unborn child. And I am not unsympathetic. But that doesn't give anyone the right to publicize the worst day of your life. How would you feel if you saw a billboard of a woman holding the outline of a child that said "This would be a picture of my two-month old baby IF my ex-husband hadn't proved to be infertile"? Especially if YOU were the ex-husband? If you EVER loved someone, you do NOT expose them to the hate and the violent maniacs that come out of the woodworks over abortion. Not ever. Or would you prefer some nutcase taking her out in her driveway with a high powered rifle?

This isn't complex at all. If she aborted the baby and he has no say in it don't you think he has the right to feel angry? I know I would be. Not all fathers are bad hate to break it to you. He doesn't love her anymore if the story he says is true then shes in the wrong,not him. This isn't really that hard to understand. If he gets creative in getting back at her (at a such small scale considering all hes lost forever) then I say bravo to you, sir. And wow equating shooting someone with a billboard yeah that is really comparable
Jordan

[Errata]

If hes telling the truth then good for him. Who cares about her embarrassment hes without a son/daughter that he will never get back. Who speaks for them?
The police? no Lawmakers? no The staff that performed the murder er abortion? no So the Father is standing up he should be commended not sued by some beotch
Jordan

If he's telling the truth? So what if he is? Is it his business whether or not his ex-girlfriend aborted his child? Absolutely. Is it anyone elses? Absolutely not. You assume he is standing up because he wanted to be a father. You don't know why she left him. If he was beating the crap out of her, does he still get to be a father? Does he only want a perfect child to pass on the family name to, and like most unmarried fathers, is going to absolutely bail on a child with any developmental or physical handicaps? Does he even care about the child at all, given that he only seemed to care AFTER she dumped him?

Or is it possible, that like most women who miscarry, she had to have a D&C to clear out the leftover placenta and uterine lining so she didn't die of septic shock? Or maybe, despite the absolute innocence of the completely physically and chemically dependent fetus developing inside her, she chose not to be a mother, and certainly was not going to be a mother with such a complete ass, and chose to end her pregnancy in a way absolutely protected by law and medical science.

You may see it as murder. And that is your inalienable right. It is a an extremely limited and judgmental view that absolutely guarantees you will remain in ignorance of the complexities of such issues, rendering you unlikely to ever give an informed opinion, but that's okay. It's not like I don't understand. It is a terrifying position to be in, as a male in this country with no definable rights with an unborn child. And I am not unsympathetic. But that doesn't give anyone the right to publicize the worst day of your life. How would you feel if you saw a billboard of a woman holding the outline of a child that said "This would be a picture of my two-month old baby IF my ex-husband hadn't proved to be infertile"? Especially if YOU were the ex-husband? If you EVER loved someone, you do NOT expose them to the hate and the violent maniacs that come out of the woodworks over abortion. Not ever. Or would you prefer some nutcase taking her out in her driveway with a high powered rifle?

[Hatchett]

Hi,

I think you are right babybird.

There appears here to be a human tragedy that sometimes happens. Relationships break up, feelings are hurt, people feel cheated. It is part of life.

But what I think is wrong here is the public display of soiled linen, and spite.Which is inexcusable.

I dont really think that this is a legal issue, although I understand why it has become one, I think it is a moral issue.

And I agree with you, who in their right mind would want to associate themselves with someone whocould be so mean spirited?

Best wishes.

[ChainzCooper]

If hes telling the truth then good for him. Who cares about her embarrassment hes without a son/daughter that he will never get back. Who speaks for them?
The police? no Lawmakers? no The staff that performed the murder er abortion? no So the Father is standing up he should be commended not sued by some beotch
Jordan

[Zodiac]

Hello c.d

A quick google revealed the name of the girlfriend, Nani Lawrence and that Mr Fultz's billboard bore the endorsement of N.A.N.I, the initials of an association formed by Fultz namely National Association for Needed Information. The link between the girl's name and the billboard was therefore easier to be established than I first thought. The N.A.N.I endorsement has since been removed.

I agree that she has no case for libel, but she is suing for harassment and invasion of privacy. The question is where does her right to privacy begin and his right to free speech end. The Americans are quite keen on their First Amendment right to free speech and general this seems to prevail over other rights. We shall have to see how things develop. I would think that American jurisprudence would be unlikely to curtail the right of free speech.

Ron

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the additional research/info. Looks like "Nani" did us all a favour!!! We can only live in hopes that, in future, Mr Fultz is given no further chances to bestow/inflict his genes on an unsuspecting world!!! Beware the Beer Goggles!!!

Best wishes,
Zodiac.

[RonIpstone]

Hello c.d

A quick google revealed the name of the girlfriend, Nani Lawrence and that Mr Fultz's billboard bore the endorsement of N.A.N.I, the initials of an association formed by Fultz namely National Association for Needed Information. The link between the girl's name and the billboard was therefore easier to be established than I first thought. The N.A.N.I endorsement has since been removed.

I agree that she has no case for libel, but she is suing for harassment and invasion of privacy. The question is where does her right to privacy begin and his right to free speech end. The Americans are quite keen on their First Amendment right to free speech and general this seems to prevail over other rights. We shall have to see how things develop. I would think that American jurisprudence would be unlikely to curtail the right of free speech.

Ron

[c.d.]

Hi Ron,

As you say, it should be relatively easy to determine who his girlfriend was. But even so that is no guarantee that she is the woman being referenced on the billboard. Maybe (and unlikely after seeing his picture) he was cheating on her and getting some on the side and that is the woman who got pregnant. So from a legal point, as far as she remains unnamed, I don't think she has a case for libel.

c.d.

[babybird67]

haha lol

yes true, what woman in her right mind is going to want to go anywhere near him now...even if he looked gorgeous? All that would be in my mind would be what petty stunts he would pull if we ever broke up.

[RonIpstone]

Hi Errata,

Whose medical information is being revealed if the Mother is unnamed?

c.d.

People who know Mr Fultz (is that his real name?) would probably be able to work out who his ex-girlfriend is and ergo who has had the abortion.

The trouble with the legal action which has been taken is what would have have been a bit of local gossip has now achieved worldwide notoriety. Mr Fultz might be a cad and a bounder, but one cannot help but think that he has got what he wanted and more, with the publicity attendant on his ex's foray into litigation.

We here in the UK are having similar privacy cases being brought by philandering association football players seeking to hide their sexual indiscretions from the public in general and their wives specifically. The only winners are me learned friends in the Temple.