Females help me out with some advice

[Ally]

Thanks a lot for the support guys and thanks for the compliment Steven. I sort of had a plan but maybe I should just do it alone as was suggested.My Mom's mentioning of asking her over I could bring that up to My Mom and she could ask her over next time we both go and shes there. I could tell the 'rents to exit stage left at the right time (beforehand of course) and let her know it wasn't my Mom's idea for her to come over but mine. And that I think shes awesome and want to get to know her better. Or maybe I should just be a man and do this myself. What do you guy think is the better option? We have some time to brainstorm this
Jordan

So basically, your plan is to trick her with a bait and switch?

I frankly always love it when a guy plays mind games, lies to me to get me to come over, then when I get there, find out he's maneuvered it so I am alone with him, and my expectation for a safe low key gathering is now gone, and I am alone with a guy who's proven he can't be upfront and honest with me, can't just come clean from the beginning, but instead feels he's got to maneuver and manipulate and trick me into dating him.

Yeah. That'll go really well I am sure. This is assuming of course that she lacks all self-esteem and would actually agree to a momma's boy ask out in the first place. Frankly if some guy's MOTHER asked me over, then I arrived to find it was some designer plan from the son, I'd run straight for the hills. Especially if the mother had agreed to do it and not smacked him upside his head for being stupid. "Yes sure dear I just invited this nice young lady over, but now that I know that you have lusty designs on her and I've tricked her into coming over for you, I'll just make myself scarce, and leave her to arrive unknowing she'll be alone in the house with you when you've never even had a single private meeting one on one, we'll just maneuver her til she's locked in a house with you for the first time ever. Yes that sounds like a swell and mature plan, dear". No one normal wants that kind of relationship baggage.

Of course since it's now clear you are both teenagers, she might be as clueless as you and think this is not the creepy trick that it is. If you aren't mature enough to ask a girl out without your mommy as your spokesperson and your con, you aren't mature enough to have a relationship with someone.

Obviously the better option is to man up and ask her yourself.

[Sister Hyde]

i bet we will, we better get the updates considering how hard we're trying to think to help the boy!!!

[Chris]

That was actually a line Dustin Hoffman used in "Tootsie," only to have a drink thrown in his face (though it's a bit more complicated than that). But maybe the principle does apply.

I do hope we're going to get regular updates on how this turns out ...

[Sister Hyde]

We do have them here, they are called Scousers.

Monty....who will not mention le rugger.

Damn!!! really??? i didn't know people from liverpool were male chauvinists.
well anyway Jordan! as long as you don't belong to this category of people, go for it. but you can mention rugby no problem with that.

[tji]

Heh heh I agree with Phil, Chris- you smooth talker you! - you must have them falling at your feet!!

In all seriousness though Jordan, I think Chris has the idea, you can dance round the issue with her, taking in another woman etc, but then neither of you will know where you stand. Maybe that would blow up in your face and she might then bring a hot guy in to work in acknowledgement of your 'hot girl.'
If you are upfront and respectful I am betting she will appreciate it more, even if she does say no, she will still appreciate the way you asked.

If you think it is too deep telling her you want to make love to her - (since you haven't been on an date yet) just replace that with a 'you would love to take her on a date' and keep the making love one for date three

Also, just my opinion but I do agree with leaving your mother out of the equation at this moment in time, it is your first date (hopefully). You want it just you and her, maybe have her over to your mother's house on the third or fourth when she has got to know you more.


Good luck
Tracy

[Rubyretro]

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uuuh i think Jordan better keep that one for later on. NOT directly!

if she likes you, next step is... COOK HER DINNER!!!

I agree, Sister !

[Sister Hyde]

Have you thought of trying this one?

You know, I could lay a big line on you and we could do a lot of role playing, but the simple truth is, is that I find you very interesting and I'd really like to make love to you.

uuuh i think Jordan better keep that one for later on. NOT directly!

if she likes you, next step is... COOK HER DINNER!!!

[Phil Carter]

Have you thought of trying this one?

You know, I could lay a big line on you and we could do a lot of role playing, but the simple truth is, is that I find you very interesting and I'd really like to make love to you.

Oh you smoothie Chris.....hahaha

[Chris]

Have you thought of trying this one?

You know, I could lay a big line on you and we could do a lot of role playing, but the simple truth is, is that I find you very interesting and I'd really like to make love to you.

[Rubyretro]

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Jordan, instead of your Mom, you've got to go to this restaurant with a nice lady, sort of a bombshell.
Then you'll be irresistible.

Excellent advice !! (I'm not joking !).

Keep your Mom well away from that restaurant -but if you have an attractive sister, or work collegue, or close female friend, then invite her to
dinner ASP (note : she must be a 'bombshell' as David says -it won't work otherwise).

The chances are that your waitress will be well aware that she has an admirer in you, and although she is probably flattered, she may be undecided
as whether to turn you down or not, if and when you make your move.

I think that she will be 'miffed' to have that 'choice' seemingly taken from her,
and you will immediately go up in her estimation if she thinks that you interest other attractive women !

To make sure that this doesn't backfire on you though, make certain that at the end of your 'date' it is clear your real relationship ( if it's your sister, she could say " please can you give my brother the bill -it's his turn today !).
The waitress should be relieved to get her admirer back, and if you have risen in her estimation, that won't be dissipated so quickly !

[Archaic]

[QUOTE=ChainzCooper;166845]The waitress I mean not my Mom. haha
But does anyone have an opinion of my plan? Or should I do something else?Jordan[/QUOTE

Look, if i were you, i would grab a couple of tourist on summer and make them eat all the ciggarette buds on the beach untill it's clean, maybe you should do like me, spend your summer buried in the scandinavian nature, and go south the rest of the year, it's really relieving

Hi Jordan. Please note that Sister's post, which followed your question, does not represent the best plan for you.
Please do not grab a couple of tourists on the beach and make them eat cigarette butts- not romantic at all.

You know, Jordan, it sounds like the young lady already likes you, so I think your best bet is to come up with a few ideas of places she might want to go so you feel more confident, then just relax and be yourself. You don't need a "strategy" or a "master plan". She likes YOU.

Be yourself, be a gentleman, and go with the flow. You two may end up just taking a walk together in the park - and it might be the best "date" either of you ever had.

Because all of here at Casebook want you and the young lady to enjoy yourselves and to have a good time, its OK if you don't text us "Jordan's Hot Date Updates"
every 15 minutes...

I think others will agree, every 30 minutes or so is just fine.

Have fun, Jordan, you'll be fine.

Best regards,
Archaic

[Sister Hyde]

Bon, nous sommes d'accord....j'ai toujours associé le tourisme de masse à un viol collectif....mais c'est nous, pauvres Méditerranéens velus et bardés de jonquaille qui en sommes les victimes.

Look, if i were you, i would grab a couple of tourist on summer and make them eat all the ciggarette buds on the beach untill it's clean, maybe you should do like me, spend your summer buried in the scandinavian nature, and go south the rest of the year, it's really relieving

[ChainzCooper]

Shes the only bombshell as far as I'm concerned. But what do you think of my plan?
Jordan

The waitress I mean not my Mom. haha
But does anyone have an opinion of my plan? Or should I do something else?
Jordan

[ChainzCooper]

Jordan, instead of your Mom, you've got to go to this restaurant with a nice lady, sort of a bombshell.
Then you'll be irresistible.
But don't ask me how to date the bombshell !

Bestest

Shes the only bombshell as far as I'm concerned. But what do you think of my plan?
Jordan

[DVV]

Jordan, instead of your Mom, you've got to go to this restaurant with a nice lady, sort of a bombshell.
Then you'll be irresistible.
But don't ask me how to date the bombshell !

Bestest