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  • mariab
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    I'm afraid I fully agree with Brummie, but, not being a British citizen, I don't feel inclined to elaborate, neither do I wish to offend anyone here...
    (Brummie, you remind me of Johnny Rotten – in a good way!)

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  • Phil H
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    You must remember Phil that the people of Britain were never asked if they wanted to join.

    I do remember, I was there and very much aware.

    We were dragged in and then later asked if we wanted to stay in.

    I voted in the referendum (Yes- to stay in - if that is of interest. I debated the issues quite hard at the time with friends and work colleagues.

    As always apathy took over and the majority (albeit quite a small majority) decided to let things be,

    As I recall the vote was around 66% for staying in, 33% for withdrawl - a pretty solid majority. But surely in a democracy, even a majority of 1 is enough?

    But this discussion is NOT about referendums and Votes. To answer the original question you posed, if a United States of Europe posed a single -state solution, you would probably still need political heads of the individual states (so the PMs would remain) and any change could probably be covered up as with the Lisbon treaty (no real constitutional change). But if you wanted to remove the Head of State, that would be obvious - you could not hide such a change. So the position of the monarch could be (and I admit it's a could) a significant factor in making people see the magnitiude of the change.

    You'll probably not agree.

    Warmest regards

    Phil

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  • Bob Hinton
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    Originally posted by Phil H View Post
    But why SHOULD a constitutional monarch protect "us from the European Union", Robert?

    So far as staying in is concerned, there was a referendum in the mid 70s that showed that 66% of the Uk population favoured staying in at that stage.
    Phil
    You must remember Phil that the people of Britain were never asked if they wanted to join. We were dragged in and then later asked if we wanted to stay in. As always apathy took over and the majority (albeit quite a small majority) decided to let things be, mainly because Heath swore to us that the Common Market was just a trading block, something he recently admitted was a lie.

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  • Graham
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    Originally posted by ChainzCooper View Post
    I hate to invoke Rodney King but 'Can't we all just get along?'
    Jordan
    Couldn't agree more, Jordan. This thread is entertaining and was jogging along nicely, but posts such as #24 above are neither entertaining, necessary nor indeed remotely funny.

    Graham

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  • ChainzCooper
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    I hate to invoke Rodney King but 'Can't we all just get along?'
    Jordan

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  • Graham
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    Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
    What a strange and nasty and inappropriate reply to a harmless Pub Talk post.
    Well said, Mr T

    Graham

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  • Stephen Thomas
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    Originally posted by Phil H View Post
    How very witty, Brummie! Oscar Wilde reborn! Noel Coward manquee!!

    Is that based on the vacuuity of your own life experience, or on inner knowledge?
    What a strange and nasty and inappropriate reply to a harmless Pub Talk post.

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  • Robert
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    There was an Oscar Wilde remark, made while standing on a miserable, rainswept railway platform while handcuffed to a warder :

    "If this is the way the Queen treats her prisoners, she doesn't deserve to have any."

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  • Graham
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    The word you struggle for is VACUITY.

    Still, your attempt isn't too bad for your average civil-servant, I suppose.

    Graham

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  • Phil H
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    How very witty, Brummie! Oscar Wilde reborn! Noel Coward manquee!!

    Is that based on the vacuuity of your own life experience, or on inner knowledge?

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  • brummie
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    What do the Royal Family do? Thats a very good question.. Erm...well...erm sometimes they open things, when they can spare the time from jetting round the world at taxpayers expense, or deciding which of the royal residences to live in this week, that must take a lot of time. Strange how we can't afford to fix leaking school roofs but can afford to keep our German/Greek royal family in luxury.

    Still can always rely on Phil the Greek for a politically incorrect chuckle.
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    Oh hang on theres a beefeater at the door wants to know if I will accompany him to the tower, funny you think he'd know the way by now.

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  • ChainzCooper
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    Cool, I'll check it out after work.
    Jordan

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  • Phil H
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    Jordan:

    I think this is the link:



    It can be found - unsurprisingly - under Suspects: General Discussion.

    Happy to help,

    Phil

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  • ChainzCooper
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    Hey Phil,
    Maybe then you could direct me to the post where you discussed the suspects that would be great.
    Nice chatting with you
    Jordan

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  • Phil H
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    Jordan Not really the thread to answer your question in JtR suspects. I set out my stall in a recent thread asking posters to nominate their three top candidates. I responded in some detail.

    I've been interested in Jtr since the early 1960s and I suppose I have latched onto most of the suspects at one time or another (including Druitt, the "Knight" conspiracy, for a while, and Kosminski - though I have ALWAYS thought the "diary" an obvious forgery.

    However, I have recently added Charles Cross to the list having read a couple of deeply fascinating dissertations here.

    Robert:

    ...about a year ago I came across a little book about a man who bought the island of Lundy, and minted his own coins, with his head on them. He didn't get away with it, of course, but they dealt with him very gently.

    These people appear from time to time - a lot depnds on the national offshore limit. Most of them are harmless eccentrics with more money than sense!

    (Come to think of it they might have royal genes on that basis!!)

    Phil

    Phil

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