Gordon Brown resigning?

[cappuccina]

Say Neal, this is just a lowly American's point of view, but if she were still alive, Sister Rosetta would whoop your elitist ass for saying her music is crappy.....just sayin'...

[Natalie Severn]

Yeah, and all the lefties can keep bending over kissing every foreign rear end you can find. Keep listening to crappy folk music and growing long beards, and pretending that the world you believe in is the real one. Then maybe in a few years Labour's elite Islington set, sorry, I mean the working class party shall come and save us again, dream on

No you are wrong! You have to have gone to Eton or Westminster to have proper education in "kissing arses"......and be calm,we have no intention of "saving" you!

[Neal Shelden]

Graham, you just go on doffing your cap " to the squire and his relations" all you want. All those who want can become "flunkeys" to those two rich public school boys,Tweedle Cam and Tweedle Clegg ! It wont last the year -however many moats their flunkeys clean out for them and their ilk----at tax payers expense. The Clegg clone will get lumbered with too much of the fag work!
I am a bit busy right now but will be back later!

Cheers
Norma

Yeah, and all the lefties can keep bending over kissing every foreign rear end you can find. Keep listening to crappy folk music and growing long beards, and pretending that the world you believe in is the real one. Then maybe in a few years Labour's elite Islington set, sorry, I mean the working class party shall come and save us again, dream on

[Neal Shelden]

You are not alone Graham. Many union memebers are not Labour supporters.

Thatcher came close to sending in the troops against the miners.

Yeah, but I think Scargill did very nicely out of it, while all the poor miners were suffering.

[Natalie Severn]

I'm off-topic, but this is for Limehouse and Natalie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzr_GBa8qk

Thanks Caps-Great stuff! Now there"s a woman I admire---talented, spirited and full of fun!

[Limehouse]

I'm off-topic, but this is for Limehouse and Natalie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzr_GBa8qk

Hi Caps,

That's so uplifting. She is a great guitar player and singer. Thanks so much for posting it.

We should start a thread for all of our favourite 'freedom' tracks!

Julie

[cappuccina]

I'm off-topic, but this is for Limehouse and Natalie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzr_GBa8qk

[johns]

That's not the proposal. For some reason the BBC misunderstood it and reported that, which has confused a lot of people. The 55% threshold is specifically for a motion to dissolve parliament. A no-confidence motion would still be a simple majority.

If the government lost a vote of confidence, then the prime minister would have to resign, and the Queen would ask someone else to form a government.

This is similar to the current situation for the Scottish parliament, except that the threshold there is 66%, not 55%, and there is an additional provision for dissolution if it's found impossible to form a new government.

Thanks Chris.

I'm of the opinion, and have been since I was old enough to vote, that the British way of running our country needs a radical overhaul in all areas.

It will be interesting to see what comes up these next few years, and I'm certain that various arguements will arise, but for us to move forward in this area we need to get one thing sorted quick.

PMQs and general behaviour needs radical change.

They need to stop all the childishness and that weedy Speaker needs to grow a spine or get out. That guy shouldn't even be in the job anyway IMHO and his constituents hardly had a fair vote.

The Speaker should be elected by the house AFTER a General Election, and why does it even have to be an MP?

Get a Speaker will some balls and severely chastise MPs who behave like children.

[Natalie Severn]

Ladies,

if you'd bothered to read my posts, you may have noticed that at no time have I actually expressed any admiration of, or support for, the present coalition government.

Graham

Fair enough Graham.Like Julie says,
Have a good week end!

Norma

[Limehouse]

Ladies,

if you'd bothered to read my posts, you may have noticed that at no time have I actually expressed any admiration of, or support for, the present coalition government.

Graham

I did notice that Graham. I think, if I may say so, that you are of a generation (early 60s?), like my sister, who was able to enjoy the tastiest fruits of the Welfare State. This enabled you to reach where you are now with reasonable comfort (I'm trying to be general, not specific, so forgive me if I'm wide of the mark by a hundred miles or so) and some of you think you got there all on your own. It stands to reason you would not want to lose the comforts that hard work, and a lot of help from the state, allowed you to accumulate.

Nowadays, all that has changed. Many people work very hard and get no where. Others have no work. More still have a poverty of aspiration because they don't believe there is a role for them beyond reaching the next level in their PS3 game.

IOt sounds naff but it is so true. The class struggle is still there, still worth fighting for, else we are all done for.

Have a good weekend and enjoy some of that good music you love so much!

Julie

[Graham]

Ladies,

if you'd bothered to read my posts, you may have noticed that at no time have I actually expressed any admiration of, or support for, the present coalition government.

Graham

[Natalie Severn]

[QUOTE=Limehouse;134324]

Graham,

You accuse Norma of being patronising but your post is as patronising as anything I have read on this site.

Now, tell me, what are the best interests of the country?

For me, it is the well-being of its citizens. That is a government's first duty.
That means ensuring people have equal opportunities to thrive and develop.

Thanks Julie!Andy and me had a great time last night singing along to Woody Guthrie.It cheered us up a lot after the election news!And I was dancing to 60"s music at the show in town I went to with my daughter on Thursday night -"Dreamboats and Petticoats"- that was a lot of fun too.Its surprising how music can change your mood!

[Natalie Severn]

Graham, you just go on doffing your cap " to the squire and his relations" all you want. All those who want can become "flunkeys" to those two rich public school boys,Tweedle Cam and Tweedle Clegg ! It wont last the year -however many moats their flunkeys clean out for them and their ilk----at tax payers expense. The Clegg clone will get lumbered with too much of the fag work!
I am a bit busy right now but will be back later!

Cheers
Norma

[Limehouse]

[QUOTE=Graham;134321]

Patronising nonsense, Norma. I think it's safe to say that I have been aware of the singers you mention long before you ever heard of them, as well as Joe Hill, whose cause and memory these days isn't quite so shiningly angelic as once it was. I saw Joan Baez in 1963, by the way, and I wouldn't mind betting this was long before you saw the light of day. It may also interest you to know that as a singer myself I've performed The Ballad Of Joe Hill - without totally agreeing with whatever message it purports to put across.

I'm a union member for one reason and one reason only - my own personal best interests. Class struggle my arse! I don't know where you people pick up this rubbish - Corin Redgrave, maybe? Paul Foot?

Politics, especially politics in the Western democracies, is not about 'posh boys' seeking to 'finish us off', it's about putting the interests of the country first. The nearest I ever came to being 'finished off' was when dear Mr Callaghan was doing Prime Minister impressions, and not very successfully, either. Anyway, just look forward to the day when you'll visit Planet Earth, and all will be revealed.

Graham

Graham,

You accuse Norma of being patronising but your post is as patronising as anything I have read on this site.

Now, tell me, what are the best interests of the country?

For me, it is the well-being of its citizens. That is a government's first duty.
That means ensuring people have equal opportunities to thrive and develop.

[Limehouse]

Well now.....I've been a Union member all my working life from 1963, and I never did, would never, and never will vote Labour, New Labour or even Something In Between Old Labour And Could Be New Labour. However, I will support the rights of all employed people, but I am not a Socialist.

Woodie Gurthrie's song harks back to the days when the US Government regularly sent in troops against organised labour, something I believe has not happened in the United Kingdom since the General Strike of 1926, and even then it was but a gesture on the part of the Government of the day. The history of the Labour Movement in the USA and the UK is very, very different.

You don't get me, I'm part of the union.

Graham

You are not alone Graham. Many union memebers are not Labour supporters.

Thatcher came close to sending in the troops against the miners.