May: I Will Rip Up Human Rights Laws To Fight Terrorism

[Jon Guy]

Sigh...and they`ve just found the body of the missing Frenchman in the Thames.

Which makes me think ... what is the current procedure with the bodies of the terrorists ? Are they handed back to their families to be buried according to their faith ?

If so, perhaps we should refuse to hand the corpses over, and like the executed Newgate prisoners, they should be buried without ceremony under a pavement somewhere. I imagine this would play on the minds of any religious extremist.

I`d go one further and stick their head on Traitor`s Gate, but that`s just me and maybe a step too far.

[Jon Guy]

Not really because the curfews were imposed in parts of Belfast and for a limited time which was at the epicentre of the troubles whereas many of the bombings took place in Mainland UK where the was no curfew. In fact, it seems that Isis have already imposed their own curfews in their territories.

You are correct, but Belfast is still Britain, and curfew`s and shoot to kill policies are far stronger than anything May is planning to introduce, and when you say permanently, you mean until things calm down and the Tories amend the law, or in 4 years time when another party can change it, depending if the British public want it. In fact, the British public can have their say on this very matter tomorrow.

Shoot to Kill is already authorised now as we have seen on Saturday.

The shoot to kill policy in NI was aimed specifically at people throwing petrol bombs from a hundred yards away, many of them youths.

All May wants is to give the power to the security agencies to secure people who pose a threat (like at least one of the killers from last week).

It really is no big deal for law abiding British citizens.

[Svensson]

Not really because the curfews were imposed in parts of Belfast and for a limited time which was at the epicentre of the troubles whereas many of the bombings took place in Mainland UK where the was no curfew. In fact, it seems that Isis have already imposed their own curfews in their territories.

Shoot to Kill is already authorised now as we have seen on Saturday.

May is talking about changing the laws in the entire country and permanently.

[Jon Guy]

Quick question for those with longer memories: During the height of Irish Republican terrorism in the UK during the 70s and 80s, which cost around 1800 innocent lives, was there ever any talk about reducing human rights in order to fight this?

The army imposed curfew`s and gave instructions to shoot to kill.
Does this count ?

[Svensson]

I think tomorrow's election is not a foregone conclusion as it might have seemed just a month ago. May called the election in increase her majority of 12 for whatever reason (that's not a bad majority to work with as long as you have your own party on your side, see Trump for examples where this is not the case) and to effectively bury Labour. Thing is: if she reduces her majority or even if it ends up a hung parliament, she is most likely a goner and we will have another leadership election from Friday onwards. So Corbyn doesn't even have to win to expedite her retirement. Her refusal to fire back at Trump over his spat with Sadiq Khan (a meek "The London Mayor is doing a good job" won't do here) and the Tory's continued insistence on giving Trump his state visit will have cost her more percentage points.

Quick question for those with longer memories: During the height of Irish Republican terrorism in the UK during the 70s and 80s, which cost around 1800 innocent lives, was there ever any talk about reducing human rights in order to fight this?

Cheers.

[GUT]

Precisely the kind of "justice" that ISIS would advocate. Is that fighting fire with fire, or stooping to their level? I'll let the reader decide.

I have my view.

And have sympathy for those with a contrary view.

[Sam Flynn]

I seem to remember a time when the "civilised world" went to war with people who thought that type of "justice" was right.

Precisely the kind of "justice" that ISIS would advocate. Is that fighting fire with fire, or stooping to their level? I'll let the reader decide.

[GUT]

And that scares me.

Some call for the same type of thing here "Lock them up and throw away the key" comes the cry.

I seem to remember a time when the "civilised world" went to war with people who thought that type of "justice" was right.

[c.d.]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/may-i%e2%80%99ll-rip-up-human-rights-laws-that-impede-new-terror-legislation/ar-BBCaRyG?li=BBnb7Kz

c.d.