CNN has lost all credibility

[Wickerman]

It's gonna put a bit of a dent in Ripperology if we decide that news reports are no longer valid sources.

It isn't difficult to determine when your source is long dead, or alive and available.

[Ginger]

No news outlet should be used as a citation; NBC, CNN, BBC, do not make news, they only report it. A genuine source is the person they interviewed, or where they obtained their story.

It's gonna put a bit of a dent in Ripperology if we decide that news reports are no longer valid sources.

[Wickerman]

No news outlet should be used as a citation; NBC, CNN, BBC, do not make news, they only report it. A genuine source is the person they interviewed, or where they obtained their story.

I remember Trump once complained that "the National Enquirer never get the credit they deserve". Which likely gave a hint as to where he gets most of his "fake-news facts" from.

[Ginger]

Heh. The Listverse author's guide (http://listverse.com/authors/listverse-author-guide.pdf) now classifies CNN among the "tabloid and fake news sites" that can't be used as citations:

Some sources are always off-limits: tabloids and “Fake News” sites like HuffingtonPost, Buzzfeed, Daily Mail, National Enquirer, The Sun, Mirror, Metro, CNN, Examiner.

[Ginger]

Hi, Ginger. I came to Columbus in 96 (on a government contract!). I was sure those guys in the logo (and the name itself) represented the fact that the roads were constantly under construction ("were" may be the incorrect word to use).

Unless there's been massive progress made since yesterday, "were" is, in fact, an ill-advised word choice. And that may well be where it came from. I didn't move here until 2002.

The thing I remember most was the fans. What complete asses they were. These were people I heard lamenting the fact that soccer wasn't popular in the states....only they became very prickly if anyone tried to join their little club. They were awful to newcomers who didn't know as much as they did and behaved as if anyone not indoctrinated into the sport's subculture at an early age had no business crashing their party.

That's American soccer in general, really, although attitudes are getting rather more relaxed as our national team's efforts result in less consistent inflictions of humiliation. That's why I found such pungent irony in the logo's pretense to populism.

[Abby Normal]

Hi, Ginger. I came to Columbus in 96 (on a government contract!). I was sure those guys in the logo (and the name itself) represented the fact that the roads were constantly under construction ("were" may be the incorrect word to use). Anyway. I went to one game, I think it was in 98 or 99. The thing I remember most was the fans. What complete asses they were. These were people I heard lamenting the fact that soccer wasn't popular in the states....only they became very prickly if anyone tried to join their little club. They were awful to newcomers who didn't know as much as they did and behaved as if anyone not indoctrinated into the sport's subculture at an early age had no business crashing their party. I never went back (full disclosure I find watching the sport something akin to watching paint dry...but if there was such a thing as competitive paint drying I'd probably watch it).

I'm still in Columbus. But, as far as The Crew goes, I could not tell you one thing about them. I don't know if they are good or bad, if they've won or not won, if they are prospering or on the verge of being run out of town. And I'm a huge sports fan. I can tell you who is leading each MLB division, who's up in the NBA and NHL playoffs. Tomorrow I'll be able to run down the NFL draft top to bottom. But, I cannot tell you one player from the Crew. I can't tell you the name of any player that EVERY played for the crew. All I know is they have buck a brat night sometimes because I hear that commercial on the radio during 8 minute commute to work downtown.

I was sure those guys in the logo (and the name itself) represented the fact that the roads were constantly under construction

LOL! now that's funny

[Patrick S]

It's supposed to be like a crew of construction workers. That's why we had that embarassing logo with the guys in hardhats. That was supposed to symbolize the blue-collar support for soccer, which generated about as much enthusiasm as you'd expect in what's largely a government and university town anyway. The team was founded in '96, hence that number.

And, I think the reason for the hardhat imagery in the first place is that the stadium is literally abutting the central state highway maintenance depot. Huge barns full of salt, big piles of orange barrels, lots of trucks and highway machines, etc. The State Historical Museum, State Police Academy, and State Fairgrounds are all more or less adjoining as well, so we could have ended up as the Columbus Curators, Columbus Cops, or Columbus Carnies, I suppose.

Hi, Ginger. I came to Columbus in 96 (on a government contract!). I was sure those guys in the logo (and the name itself) represented the fact that the roads were constantly under construction ("were" may be the incorrect word to use). Anyway. I went to one game, I think it was in 98 or 99. The thing I remember most was the fans. What complete asses they were. These were people I heard lamenting the fact that soccer wasn't popular in the states....only they became very prickly if anyone tried to join their little club. They were awful to newcomers who didn't know as much as they did and behaved as if anyone not indoctrinated into the sport's subculture at an early age had no business crashing their party. I never went back (full disclosure I find watching the sport something akin to watching paint dry...but if there was such a thing as competitive paint drying I'd probably watch it).

I'm still in Columbus. But, as far as The Crew goes, I could not tell you one thing about them. I don't know if they are good or bad, if they've won or not won, if they are prospering or on the verge of being run out of town. And I'm a huge sports fan. I can tell you who is leading each MLB division, who's up in the NBA and NHL playoffs. Tomorrow I'll be able to run down the NFL draft top to bottom. But, I cannot tell you one player from the Crew. I can't tell you the name of any player that EVERY played for the crew. All I know is they have buck a brat night sometimes because I hear that commercial on the radio during 8 minute commute to work downtown.

[Abby Normal]

It's supposed to be like a crew of construction workers. That's why we had that embarassing logo with the guys in hardhats. That was supposed to symbolize the blue-collar support for soccer, which generated about as much enthusiasm as you'd expect in what's largely a government and university town anyway. The team was founded in '96, hence that number.

And, I think the reason for the hardhat imagery in the first place is that the stadium is literally abutting the central state highway maintenance depot. Huge barns full of salt, big piles of orange barrels, lots of trucks and highway machines, etc. The State Historical Museum, State Police Academy, and State Fairgrounds are all more or less adjoining as well, so we could have ended up as the Columbus Curators, Columbus Cops, or Columbus Carnies, I suppose.

thanks Ginger. ive always been interested in how teams get there logos, names etc.
My favorite tie in is with my favorite pro football team the Baltimore Ravens-cool name, logo, colors and tie in with Poe.

[Ginger]

yeah I like there new logo much better. whats the significance to the word crew-is it like workers or something? and of the number 96 in the logo?

It's supposed to be like a crew of construction workers. That's why we had that embarassing logo with the guys in hardhats. That was supposed to symbolize the blue-collar support for soccer, which generated about as much enthusiasm as you'd expect in what's largely a government and university town anyway. The team was founded in '96, hence that number.

And, I think the reason for the hardhat imagery in the first place is that the stadium is literally abutting the central state highway maintenance depot. Huge barns full of salt, big piles of orange barrels, lots of trucks and highway machines, etc. The State Historical Museum, State Police Academy, and State Fairgrounds are all more or less adjoining as well, so we could have ended up as the Columbus Curators, Columbus Cops, or Columbus Carnies, I suppose.

[Abby Normal]

I wanted it renamed to be Columbus Crew FC, but I was in the minority. At least we no longer have the most awful logo in the MLS. That's progress.

yeah I like there new logo much better. whats the significance to the word crew-is it like workers or something? and of the number 96 in the logo?

[Ginger]

On Saturday we have a game between:

New York City Football Club v's Columbus Crew Soccer Club.

Go figure...

I wanted it renamed to be Columbus Crew FC, but I was in the minority. At least we no longer have the most awful logo in the MLS. That's progress.

[Abby Normal]

Oh did you see the Chris Coghlan highlight from last night!!!!

http://www.syracuse.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/04/torontos_chris_coghlan_leaps_for_one_of_mlbs_best_2017_highlights_so_far_video.html

not sure if that will load.... but AMAZING!!!!

Steadmund Brand

yeah-saw that too!

[Steadmund Brand]

Oh did you see the Chris Coghlan highlight from last night!!!!

http://www.syracuse.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/04/torontos_chris_coghlan_leaps_for_one_of_mlbs_best_2017_highlights_so_far_video.html

not sure if that will load.... but AMAZING!!!!

Steadmund Brand

[Abby Normal]

another reason I find Baseball fascinating-Trea turner for the Nats just hit for the cycle and the highlights were exciting. such a cool sport.

[Patrick S]

did you see that American Brian Shaw won his fourth WSM competition?
What a beast-and he played college Basketball!?!
Hes chasing Mariusz Pudzianowski who has five titles. Pudzian has my total respect as he also competes and is pretty successful at MMA, my favorite sport.

The most impressive things I've seen re: Mariusz is his training vids. The weights he uses and the ease with which he moves them is unreal.