RIP The Greatest of ALL TIME

[GUT]

Yes, Ali had to learn a whole different style in the second half of his career.

BTW I don't remember Ali standing toe to toe with Liston, except during that weird 5th round. Liston may have stood toe, but Ali's toe was miles away.

Float like a butterfly
Sting like a bee
Your hand can't hit
What your eye can't see

That'd be Tysons problem.

Ali could not only go toe to toe when he had to (look at what he took from big George) but he could move, so well his opponents couldn't hit him much of the time.

[John Wheat]

Yes, Ali had to learn a whole different style in the second half of his career.

BTW I don't remember Ali standing toe to toe with Liston, except during that weird 5th round. Liston may have stood toe, but Ali's toe was miles away.

Ali wouldn't have stood toe to toe with Tyson his movement would have meant Tyson would be chasing shadows. Ali would win easily.

[Robert]

Yes, Ali had to learn a whole different style in the second half of his career.

BTW I don't remember Ali standing toe to toe with Liston, except during that weird 5th round. Liston may have stood toe, but Ali's toe was miles away.

[Harry D]

Tyson was a lethal puncher and also had great attacking technique. But Ali stood toe-to-toe with some of the hardest-hitters in history (Shavers, Liston, Foreman, Frazier) and came out on top. Before he was stripped of his belt and banned for three years, no one could live with Ali. Tyson wouldn't have touched him.

[GUT]

The thing is, for Tyson in his prime to beat Ali in his prime, the former would have had to catch up with the latter.

PS GUT don't you mean Frazier 1 and 3?

Yes.

Top three heavyweight fights of my life

Fight of the Century
Rumble in the Jungle
Trills in Manila when I get that Gorilla

[John Wheat]

Aye, right-o, John.

Lewis could not in a million years have coped with a prime Tyson.

Tyson would have wiped the floor with him. Leiws would have been lucky to get past 6 rounds intact.

I have to disagree. Lenox Lewis was bigger, stronger and better technically than Tyson.

[Robert]

The thing is, for Tyson in his prime to beat Ali in his prime, the former would have had to catch up with the latter.

PS GUT don't you mean Frazier 1 and 3?

[Fleetwood Mac]

Tyson (who had to bite ears) v Ali.

Might end with another phantom Punch.

He wasn't called The Greatest for no reason at all.

Frazier 1 and 2 and George the Giant are three of the best fights I have ever seen. Forman was the biggest hitter I ever saw and Ali treated him with near on disdain, took everything he had, let him punch himself out, taunted him, then goodnight.

Frazier and he hated each other at the time, but appeared to put it behind them at least somewhat in later years, but for sheer savagery hard to beat.

Tyson bit Holyfield's ear yes.

Two things about that:

Firstly Holyfield was a top class fighter; secondly, and more importantly, Tyson was well past his best by then. Wasn't training properly, didn't have the right people around him etc.

Tell you what it is, in his prime 1986-1988 no fighter would have relished the prospect of getting in the ring with him. When he was training properly and had the right people alongside him. During those three years he was the nastiest, most horrible ****** who ever climbed through the ropes. He really was the baddest man on the planet as they say......in a boxing ring that is.

[GUT]

Tyson (who had to bite ears) v Ali.

Might end with another phantom Punch.

He wasn't called The Greatest for no reason at all.

Frazier 1 and 2 and George the Giant are three of the best fights I have ever seen. Forman was the biggest hitter I ever saw and Ali treated him with near on disdain, took everything he had, let him punch himself out, taunted him, then goodnight.

Frazier and he hated each other at the time, but appeared to put it behind them at least somewhat in later years, but for sheer savagery hard to beat.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Agreed Lenox Lewis destroyed Tyson and would have done even at Tyson's peak.

Aye, right-o, John.

Lewis could not in a million years have coped with a prime Tyson.

Tyson would have wiped the floor with him. Leiws would have been lucky to get past 6 rounds intact.

[John Wheat]

Pffft... Tyson wasn't even the best of his own generation, let alone all time!

Agreed Lenox Lewis destroyed Tyson and would have done even at Tyson's peak.

[Harry D]

Pffft... Tyson wasn't even the best of his own generation, let alone all time!

[Fleetwood Mac]

Haha no. If Ali could rope-a-dope a monster like Foreman, he would take down Tyson.

Absolutely no chance.

Not the Tyson of 1986-88.

Animal who put very good fighters away like he was swatting flies.

On his day, the best pound for pound fighter who ever lived.

I would bet a pound to a penny that if you asked any fighter which other fighter they wouldn't wanna get in the ring with in his heyday, the answer would be: Tyson.

I've never seen destruction like that in a boxing ring, and watch any documentary and look into his eyes and he's absolutely ****in' mental. Just a job though in Tyson's eyes, you wouldn't wanna get hit by the crazy ******. It was like watching a lion tearing a zebra apart.

[Harry D]

In his prime Mike Tyson pound for pound would have killed pretty much anyone of any era.

Haha no. If Ali could rope-a-dope a monster like Foreman, he would take down Tyson.

[Fleetwood Mac]

I'd say Ali was easily the greatest heavyweight of all time.

I wouldn't.

In his prime Mike Tyson pound for pound would have killed pretty much anyone of any era.

Problem with Tyson is that he was born in the wrong era, so didn't come up against the best in history. And of course, his demons which meant he was nowhere near tip top shape for most of his fights.

Put it this way, top trainers/pundits/experts whatever you want to call them, reckon Michael Spinks would have been too much for a light heavyweight Roy Jones. Michael Spinks was lucky to get out of the ring alive when Tyson demolished him within a round.