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  • Why is the Colorado governor and Boulder police not allowing DNA analysis??

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/jonbenet-...pushes-answers
    "Is all that we see or seem
    but a dream within a dream?"

    -Edgar Allan Poe


    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

    -Frederick G. Abberline

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    That’s not going to make people believe that they have something to hide is it.

    It seems a no brainier to me Abby. They should be falling over themselves to get any help possible that might solve the case.
    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes

    “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      That’s not going to make people believe that they have something to hide is it.

      It seems a no brainier to me Abby. They should be falling over themselves to get any help possible that might solve the case.
      yeah especially since Parabon is so successful at it... theyre the ones who help catch the GSK
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • #4
        hope you dont mind me coming in on this one.
        i was looking for my old posts on YouTube to confirm.
        i think the letter had letters in higher casing maybe .
        S.T.C.M.B.
        it was found on the fathers diploma i believe. within a picture frame .
        but i read it as a torment from who.
        ( so the case may be )

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        • #5
          Originally posted by milchmanuk View Post
          hope you dont mind me coming in on this one.
          i was looking for my old posts on YouTube to confirm.
          i think the letter had letters in higher casing maybe .
          S.T.C.M.B.
          it was found on the fathers diploma i believe. within a picture frame .
          but i read it as a torment from who.
          ( so the case may be )
          wrong it was SBTC - victory ( SO BE THE CASE ) VICTORY, it was part of the ransom note. that was on diploma ?
          so i made mistake.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by milchmanuk View Post

            wrong it was SBTC - victory ( SO BE THE CASE ) VICTORY, it was part of the ransom note. that was on diploma ?
            so i made mistake.
            interesting milch
            i know they were trying to figure out what it meant. i never heard it was from a diploma in their house from jons framed diploma.
            need to ponder.
            "Is all that we see or seem
            but a dream within a dream?"

            -Edgar Allan Poe


            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

            -Frederick G. Abberline

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

              interesting milch
              i know they were trying to figure out what it meant. i never heard it was from a diploma in their house from jons framed diploma.
              need to ponder.
              i get all my knowledge from YouTube as people here are well aware of! lol.
              what i remember it was in a picture frame. the diploma as such.
              so this started to lead to inside job as such as the farther Christmas guy that used to come round who him and his wife wrote a book a decade or two before outlining this exact as can be scenario ? was one time suspect .
              i believe it was to be a ransom but perhaps the guy or guys that entered that night were not as seemed.
              i think the ransom letter read
              " victory - S.B.T.C." signed off as. like a torment.as they either saw the diploma in picture frame or it is as i read it. or both.torment .
              i carnt remember the S.B.T.C. means ( John Ramsey's naval training at the Subic Bay Training Center in the Philippines. ) you know i cant remember.
              Some people observing the case, such as Fox News' Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, have pointed out that the acronym translates into "Saved By The Cross" in the Christian faith.
              I believe it,s a killers torment.

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              • #8
                could be clue to body
                John Ramsey's naval training at the Subic Bay Training Center in the Philippines.
                Downstairs -Below

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                • #9
                  guy or guys enter the house perhaps dressed in ski masks as santa and the little girl went along with them for pineapple in desert bowl downstairs.

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                  • #10
                    Everyone knows there's no Sanity Clause.
                    My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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                    • #11
                      Here is another article about the petition to Governor Polis regarding the JonBenet Ramsey murder case. It is also from July, 2022. I have not heard anything more updated.

                      https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/us/jo...der-fast-facts
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                      Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                      • #12
                        I'm a big admirer of Peter Hyatt, a statement analyst, who has worked for and trained many people in authority including the police and the FBI.

                        Here is more about Peter Hyatt's on his website:
                        https://www.hyattanalysis.com/about-hyatt-analysis/

                        His YouTube home page:
                        https://www.youtube.com/c/PeterHyatt/featured

                        And finally his JonBenét specific video which may be for interest:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdAlaardBQ

                        Note it's dated 03-12-2018 so won't reference later developments. But hopefully people will find the statement analysis as fascinating as I do.

                        Martyn
                        Last edited by mpriestnall; 09-20-2022, 08:23 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mpriestnall View Post
                          I'm a big admirer of Peter Hyatt, a statement analyst, who has worked for and trained many people in authority including the police and the FBI.

                          Here is more about Peter Hyatt's on his website:
                          https://www.hyattanalysis.com/about-hyatt-analysis/

                          His YouTube home page:
                          https://www.youtube.com/c/PeterHyatt/featured

                          And finally his JonBenét specific video which may be for interest:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdAlaardBQ

                          Note it's dated 03-12-2018 so won't reference later developments. But hopefully people will find the statement analysis as fascinating as I do.

                          Martyn
                          Thanks Martyn-hadnt seen this before. But yeah hes good, I ve seen his analysis of The MCanns-and yes very fascinating.
                          While I think theres a chance it was an outside intruder I lean pretty heavily the Ramseys did it. or at least one of them and the other helped cover up.

                          What I find very interesting is that passive voice statement of how he found her. Everything Ive ever seen on them they are constantly trying to distance themselves from the crime scene, from the police,from their daughter, from any kind of responsibility. and that statement is consistant with that guilty behavior.

                          along with that, what parent when discovered their child is missing, dosnt search every inch of their house and yard looking for her? I mean every inch! The neighbors would have heard me frantically calling her name out in the yard. The ramseys didnt even go outside. And not to check all the rooms in the basement? Especially since they found the suitcase by the open window down there?!? come on. He also when he found her didnt pull the ligature off her neck. very odd. any parent would have ripped that dam thing off her as soon as they found her.

                          Also-Classic guilty behavior, and again distancing your guilty self from the crime, is to set it up so that someone else finds the body. The ramseys tried to do that by avoiding checking that room instantly and hoping the police would. They were probably like why cant these stupid police find her already. when that wasnt going to happen and the police told him to go look again he realized he was going to have to do it. Im at about 75% they did it.
                          Last edited by Abby Normal; 09-20-2022, 03:03 PM.
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                            Thanks Martyn-hadnt seen this before. But yeah hes good, I ve seen his analysis of The MCanns-and yes very fascinating.
                            While I think theres a chance it was an outside intruder I lean pretty heavily the Ramseys did it. or at least one of them and the other helped cover up.

                            What I find very interesting is that passive voice statement of how he found her. Everything Ive ever seen on them they are constantly trying to distance themselves from the crime scene, from the police,from their daughter, from any kind of responsibility. and that statement is consistant with that guilty behavior.

                            along with that, what parent when discovered their child is missing, dosnt search every inch of their house and yard looking for her? I mean every inch! The neighbors would have heard me frantically calling her name out in the yard. The ramseys didnt even go outside. And not to check all the rooms in the basement? Especially since they found the suitcase by the open window down there?!? come on. He also when he found her didnt pull the ligature off her neck. very odd. any parent would have ripped that dam thing off her as soon as they found her.

                            Also-Classic guilty behavior, and again distancing your guilty self from the crime, is to set it up so that someone else finds the body. The ramseys tried to do that by avoiding checking that room instantly and hoping the police would. They were probably like why cant these stupid police find her already. when that wasnt going to happen and the police told him to go look again he realized he was going to have to do it. Im at about 75% they did it.
                            Thanks Abby. I'm not so familiar with this over-the-pond case but you certainly make some common-sense points about the parent's behavior.

                            I think statement analysis is a great tool to try and pick apart statements made in certain cases where it's difficult to get at the truth. My thread "https://forum.casebook.org/forum/ripper-discussions/victims/mary-jane-kelly/760405-the-legend-of-mary-jane-kelly#post760824" was inspired (if not informed!) by Hyatt's work.

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